Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2014,11:07)HI , 2 peter 12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance;14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this…[Read more]

Mike,Quote How is that different, Kerwin? Are you saying John already KNOWS exactly what he will be like, but that new body just hasn't yet been manifested so they can see it with their eyes?Close but it is not about seeing with just your eyes. It is more like to come into existence, as in your changed body will come into existence. With Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,Quote So then, in your opinion, John DID see Jesus exactly as he is right now in heaven, but he didn't become like Jesus because the trump hadn't yet sounded?Yes.Quote In your understanding, John is saying that once we AGAIN see Jesus as he is, the trump will have sounded, and we will then be like Jesus is.  Is that right?No.  For one many o…[Read more]

To all,Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel, Raguel, Remiel and Saraqael are the seven archangels spoken of in the book of 1 Enoch. It is the earliest known mention. They are said to be the seven eyes of God and the Lamb has seven eyes.Those who are fans of that book or anyone else can look it up.

Jammin,Quote do you understand the version?hahahalet me post it againJn 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father’s side, has made him known. NIVstudy more boyGod's word is God's word, it does not change with the shifting versions.  I understand the translators decided to establish their trinitarian cred by th…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ May 27 2014,18:55)Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2014,07:12)Quote (jammin @ May 23 2014,22:17)Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2014,05:16)Jammin,Quote I DID NOT CLAIM THAT THE FATHER IS ALSO THE SON. So you have changed your doctrine and now claim Jesus is equal to the one God but is not the one God.i did not change my doctrine. your reading…[Read more]

Mike,Could you repeat those posts in the thread you speak of unless you already have already written the equivalent of the content.

vjesnik,Quote Is the archangel Michael the same person as Jesus?Jesus is not an angel as God did not subject the world to come to angels but it is subjected to Jesus.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,08:53)Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2014,00:36)Mike,Quote Also, are you saying “God's word” is more of a “literal Father” to us than God Himself?I did not say God's word is their father I said God is their Father by his word.Kerwin,God is LITERALLY your Father.  He is MORE of a father to you than your earthly father – for…[Read more]

Mike,Quote David said there was NO PLACE to which he could flee to escape God's presence. So how could Cain escape it by moving a few miles down the road? There is some things that seem to contradict your reasoning that Cain misunderstood everything God said. One is that it is written that:Genesis 4:16New English Translation (NET)16 So Cain went…[Read more]

T,What passage do you get ” FOR HE HAD NO SIN” from? I could not find it under the search of the words I thought of.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2014,08:43)Quote (kerwin @ May 20 2014,00:25)God declared he would not notice Cain.Is that really the way it went down, Kerwin?Here is the curse God actually laid down on Cain:Genesis 411 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When y…[Read more]

Wakeup,Quote He said: when you are born of the spirit; you are spirit. No, he instead said:John 3:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. We are also told:Titus 3:5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,10:01)Hi KW, So you make a dogma from what Paul did not know?Nick,Are you basing your words on my final conclusion which is actually based on more evidence than Paul's words in 2 Corinthians to the effect he did not know if a man ascended to heaven in a body or not?At the moment I am only trying to establish that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,10:01)Hi KW, So you make a dogma from what Paul did not know?Nick,I chose not to claim something Paul states he does not know and I do not know if the man entered in body or out but I would be a fool to claim that no one can enter heaven in body at the same time I claimed I did not know if a certain man entered…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Did Paul specifically mention the man's EARTHLY FLESH BODY?He may have chosen to do so if he figured his readers might think anything else but since a human has a human body why would he specify what that body consisted of.   If he was going to specify it, and I am not sure he would even then, it would be if the body was made of…[Read more]

Mike,The new heaven and new earth disagreement may actually be because we disagree on the meaning of Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 2:1-4. I believe they speak of the creation of the heaven of God and you believe they speak of the sky. That stems from my belief that they sky was created on the second day. There was no atmosphere, no space, as all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2014,00:29)Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,18:37)Mike,The last Adam, aka the inner man, is a life given spirit just as Genesis bears witness.Did you mean “life-giving“, Kerwin?If so, in what way is a person's “inner man” able to GIVE life to themselves or others?Mike,Sorry, I did mean life-giving.  Thank you for the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2014,00:21)Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2014,18:28)The new body is derived from the old body just as a plant is derived from its seed.  Even then God could have formed it without scars if he so chose to.  The point is that Jesus' body did not see corruption in the day nor would it see corruption any more after he was raised.  …[Read more]

T,It is the Spirit of God and those that believe speak and act from God as they are carried along by it. They also learn from it.