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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2014,20:56)To All… The Soul is the “COMPLETE” Person NOT PART of HIM. When He DIES HIS SOUL DIES ALSO, and will remain DEAD until the Resurrection OF the DEAD, when God shall maKe another Body and add the breath of Life back into it, as Ezekiel  plainly shows. If you all will read all the places in the old…[Read more]

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    Wakeup,Quote 1. I give you one.The word was **with God** and the **word was God**.It is easy to understand if you completely abandon trinitarian input as far as their beliefs that Jesus is God and the word is Jesus but you will have a hard time doing that as the AV of the KJV was translated by trinirians in the beginning.  The word was with the…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ June 17 2014,21:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2014,11:12)Quote (jammin @ June 16 2014,06:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2014,10:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2014,09:15)Quote (jammin @ June 08 2014,19:16)ERVheb 1.2He made the whole world through his Son.Who is the “HE” in that context, jammin?Who is the “HE”, jammin?  WHO made…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ June 17 2014,21:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2014,11:06)Quote (jammin @ June 16 2014,05:55)is God NOT ALL POWERFUL by nature/essence?Yes jammin,GOD is indeed all powerful.Unfortunately for your silly little doctrine, JESUS is clearly NOT all powerful – and therefore NOT “God”.  :)and you told me that jesus is equal with God in…[Read more]

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    Jammin,I already pointed out Jesus is not all powerful as he was the one that was appointed not the one the one that did the appointing.  Since Jesus is not all powerful then it is clear that is not the essence of God or part of the essence he exists in.

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    T,Such things happen. Thank you for clarifying it.

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    Mike,I understand but Ecclesiastes 9:5 has me puzzled as nothing seems to fit.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2014,06:27)Quote (carmel @ June 16 2014,14:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2014,08:40)HE is the “my God” he was talking about. Mike,YES!CONTRADICT ME WITH ONE VERSE FROM SCRIPTURE!How about two scriptures?  See previous post.  :)Mike,I already gave him passages as well.

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 17 2014,05:22)Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,08:25)Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:30)SCRIPTURES THAT SEEMS TO CONTRADICT; TO THEMANY, BUT NOT, IF UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY.  John 1:1   In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was **with God**, and the Word **was God**. John 1:2   The same was in the beginning with Go…[Read more]

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    Wakeup,Quote Zechariah 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; **and he shall grow up out of his place**, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:He was born by the will of God'; to carry out a purpose. Yes, so are we all conceived though the purpose we serve in God's…[Read more]

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    Wakeup,Quote Galatians 4:23  ***But he who was of the bondwoman was born*** ***after the flesh***;***but he of the freewoman was **by promise***.Isaac was the child of the promise but he was also born of the flesh.  Being born of the promise of God is more important that being born of the flesh and so Isaac was called the one and only son of A…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2014,02:24)Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2014,01:48)T,Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases.  In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,11:30)SCRIPTURES THAT SEEMS TO CONTRADICT; TO THEMANY, BUT NOT, IF UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY.  John 1:1   In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was **with God**, and the Word **was God**. John 1:2   The same was in the beginning with God.Revelation 20:6   Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first res…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2014,20:15)Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,12:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2014,22:14)Quote (kerwin @ June 14 2014,12:05)John the Baptist was sent from above and yet the least of those in the kingdom is greater than him.Scripture?Mike,John 1:6kJn 1:33 I would not have known him, except thatTHE ONE  who sent me to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 16 2014,16:52)Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2014,22:14)Quote (kerwin @ June 14 2014,12:05)John the Baptist was sent from above and yet the least of those in the kingdom is greater than him.Scripture?Mike,John 1:6Elizabeth was barren, and God had opened her womb.  Luke 1:7   And they had no c…[Read more]

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    T,Quote does the soul of the flesh not mean “the live of the flesh “I do not know for sure but is seems many translators believe that soul and life are synonymous in certain cases. In their belief they translate soul to life even when leaving it soul would seem to make it easier for us to translate other passage. My guess is they were afraid…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2014,18:13)Quote (kerwin @ June 16 2014,17:33)Gene,Leviticus 17:11Darby Translation (DARBY)11 for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul.Kerwin……..why? Because the Blood IS the LIFE…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ June 16 2014,17:42)Quote (kerwin @ June 15 2014,05:35)Quote (jammin @ June 12 2014,07:37)it is not irrelevant. i am talking about the human nature here and being not all powerful is part of HUMAN's nature. the truth is you cant answer my question that is why.Jesus is equal with God in essence according to paul and all powerful is…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2014,22:09)Quote (kerwin @ June 14 2014,19:12)Charles,Quote WHEN DID HE CALL HIM MY GOD?1) I am sure you know that answer which leads me to the conclusion you do not like what the passage and so have sought a way to justify that feeling.  The Passages are John 8:54 and John 20:17.Don't forget that Jesus called Jehovah…[Read more]

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    Mike,Quote This point confuses me, because Solomon said the dead are conscious of nothing at all.  David and others taught that the dead can no longer worship God or praise Him.  (Psalm 6:5, 88:10, etc.)It is hard to understand as “dead” can be dead bodies, spiritually dead, those that have died the first death, or those who have died the second d…[Read more]

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