Wakeup,God could have created man just as he did angels but he chose not to. He chose to create mankind in an immature state. I have no idea why he chose to let them be tempted by Satan. I do know he has his reasons and they are righteous.

Wakeup,God created all things so all things come from heaven. There corruption comes from this world. I believe James is speaking in the spiritual sense and not the physical sense.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2014,05:42)Quote (kerwin @ June 25 2014,14:34)Mike,I am not going into that since I believe the glorified body of a human being is flesh.  I know you think Jesus is still a flesh being in heaven.  But do you think Jesus is still a “human being”?Mike,I believe Jesus is still a human being as his soul is human.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2014,06:31)Quote (kerwin @ June 25 2014,10:19)Unto is fairly useless word that replace to in all but the case when to is an accompaniment of the infinitive or as a placement of until.Try it in English Kerwin – complete with punctuation.Use quotation marks around the words you are defining, and commas and such, so we can…[Read more]

Wakeup,You misinterpret that passage. I hope you understand what:Romans 8:23Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.: means.

Wakeup,I do not seek to boast of myself as if God does not boast of me my words are worthless.To answer your questions Christians come from above even more that the prophets for the prophets only looked forward to being conceived of the Holy Spirit. They only spoke as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit and were merely credited with…[Read more]

Mike,I am not going into that since I believe the glorified body of a human being is flesh. You seem to believe a spiritual body is a physical body which may be close enough to the truth that difference is only a matter of words.

Quote (jammin @ June 26 2014,02:13)Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2014,05:04)Quote (jammin @ June 23 2014,22:45)Quote (terraricca @ June 23 2014,16:24)Quote (jammin @ June 23 2014,09:28)t i understand if you CANT answer my questions. just go to your backyard and plant some potatoes. maybe in that way you will be able to help your countryJammyyou have…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ June 26 2014,02:17)mike said: Christ is EQUAL with God in essence BUT he is not all powerful. hahahathat is most ridiculous argument i have ever heard. it is clear that you do not understand the meaning of nature/essence and this gives me reason to say that you are a certified moron. hhahahaif you say nature/essence of God, all…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ June 26 2014,01:07)Quote I can see it used figuratively but do not see it used figuratively in the spiritual sense as Jesus was already in heaven with his God and our God figuratively.Kerwin,PLEASE CAN YOU PRODUCE SCRIPTURE TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU CAN SEE ?OTHERWISE HOW CAN I SEE WHAT YOU CAN SEE?FOR INSTANCE:REGARDING THAT PARTICULAR…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,09:09)Quote (kerwin @ June 25 2014,13:46)Wakeup,Scripture declares all good and perfect gifts come down from God and so the if “Moses and all the prophets and apostles,and good Christians” are good gifts then they come from heaven.In addition Jesus said he and his disciples were not of this world.Kerwin.So you say…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,09:02)Kerwin, Which scripture is that again?  And does it really say “DOWN from God”?James 1:17NET BibleAll generous giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or the slightest hint of change.It is a different form of come down.

Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2014,04:29)Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2014,03:45)TMark 10:27New English Translation (NET)27 Jesus looked at them and replied, “This is impossible for mere humans, but not for God; all things are possible for God.”Luke 18:27New English Translation (NET)27 He replied, “What is impossible for mere humans is possible for God.”…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2014,20:04)Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2014,05:49)Gene,I believe God as Adam and Even did die though their souls are at res in Sheol, the realm of the dead.  They died because their temple, their body, died even though their soul departed and descended to Sheol.  Their soul was not destroyed when they died though their b…[Read more]

Wakeup,If Adam had not sinned then at the proper time God would have had mankind eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and then because they were mature enough for that knowledge they would have been allowed to eat of the tree of life. Satan took advantage of the immaturity of mankind and so God did not see their sin as…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2014,08:53)Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2014,20:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2014,05:47)Had these same words been said about JESUS, and not about disciples – the Trinitarians would have been all over it as a “Jesus is God proof text”!  Mike,They do.Kerwin,You would have made a much better point by posting the Trinitarian…[Read more]

Charles,Quote RIGHT NOW JESUS IS GOD HIMSELF AS A FLESH AND SPIRIT BEINGI have no idea what you personal teaching of the trinity is but I do not Jesus was tempted even as we are and God cannot be tempted by sin. So if you believe Jesus was God during his mortal life then you do not believe he was tempted by evil as we are. That opposes what is…[Read more]

Charles,Quote As you can read the text DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PREPOSITION “UNTO”Unto is fairly useless word that replace to in all but the case when to is an accompaniment of the infinitive or as a placement of until.The lexicon one of its synonyms which is to.

Charles,Quote I am not bothered in the word ascend as such, since you are aware that it could be used figuratively as I AM SURE OF in this case!I can see it used figuratively but do not see it used figuratively in the spiritual sense as Jesus was already in heaven with his God and our God figuratively.I can see it used literally and see no reason…[Read more]

Wakeup,Scripture declares all good and perfect gifts come down from God and so the if “Moses and all the prophets and apostles,and good Christians” are good gifts then they come from heaven.In addition Jesus said he and his disciples were not of this world.