To all that are concerned,

I believe I have made the case that whether 1 Peter 2 implies Jesus is God is in the eye if the beholder and therefore cannot be used as evidence that Jesus is God. The evidence for or against that must be gleaned from other Scriptures and then tested against the context of Scripture in general.

LU,

There is a difference from being tempted to sin from an outside source and feeling tempted to sin from within yourself.

Humans are tempted by an outside force but it is an internal force that grabs hold of that temptation like a fish grabs hold of a lure. After all it is written “Resist the devil, and he will flee from you”, James 4:7.…[Read more]

LU,

Jesus is the second Adam, the first Adam was also sinless before eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Yes, that is where I was coming from in what I said.

You understand only one person being God but I understand two persons, one remained as God, while the other was sent to also become man. Does it say anywhere that…

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LU,

The tradition of using the Lord to address God and also to address Jesus is confusing. Scripture does call Jesus the Lord but it also makes clear that God whom it also calls the Lord is superior to him. That fact tells you they are not the same individual even though they carry the same title. It also tells you the titles are not…[Read more]

LU,

Can the same type of thing be said about you? Can you admit that when someone is using third person pronouns, they are normally speaking of ANOTHER PERSON?

I consider that I have already both of those things so I do not see a reason to repeat myself.

Peter supports my conclusion and not yours. It is Peter that identifies Jesus as the rock…

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LU,

you said:

To me it is strait forward Jesus was tempted by sin while the one true God cannot be therefore Jesus cannot be God.

Did you ever consider that is one of the reasons the person of Jesus had to become a man?

The statement in Scripture is not God cannot be tempted by sin. He would have to stop being the one true God in…[Read more]

Lu,

Kerwin,
It is just one of many instances where Jesus is identified as Jehovah, not the only one.
Who is the Lord of lords in the OT?
Who is the Lord of lords in the NT?
Who is the First and the Last in the OT?
Who is the First and the Last in the NT?
Who is the good shepherd in the OT?
Who is the good shepherd in the NT?
Whose name did the…

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Charles,

In Genesis 1:1 it is traditionally held the God created the heavens and the earth and that is passage you cited when you claimed :

BY LUCIFER THE HEAVENS AND ALSO EARTH,WERE ESTABLISHED! GENESIS 1:1

Clearly Genesis 1:1 does not support what you claimed. Are you perhaps speaking of another verse as supporting evidence?

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LU,

Well, my point is that He is speaking of another person and not of Himself in the third person. I understand that at times Jehovah or anyone can speak in third person and it is actually regarding themselves. Our belief system, if incorrect, will blind us to the correct understanding.

So without the context of already believing that Jesus…[Read more]

LU,

Isaiah 8:12-15
11 Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear,…

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LU,

Isaiah 8:12-15
11 Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear,…

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LU,

Did you see in the Isaiah 8 passage that Jehovah is speaking of Jehovah of hosts as if He is someone else other than Himself? The other person that Jehovah calls Jehovah of hosts is the stone of offense, not faith. Peter ties that stone to be Jesus, not faith. In both passages, the subject is a person that is the stone, not faith.

No, so…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,
The Holy Spirit had dominion?
God did.

It is his Spirit. It is not a separate individual. It is also God’s word that framed the ages.

T8,

Kerwin, are you not concerned that most translators say: ‘HE’ instead of God?

I go by feelings and frankly the common translation does not sound correct because if I were to right the same words about Jesus I would do it in the order of what happened and not randomly.

Jesus was taken up in glory before the message of salvation was pre…[Read more]

Nick,

Isaiah 65:17-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create:
for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing,
and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
and…

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Nick,

Hi KW,

Is 65-66 is about the remnant of the jewish people who will be thought accursed if they do not live to 100.

That is not written in Scripture so where did you get it from?

Mark 9:43-44Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than…[Read more]

Thank you

Charles,

BY LUCIFER THE HEAVENS AND ALSO EARTH,WERE ESTABLISHED! GENESIS 1:1

Not in any bible I have read. All of them say it was God who created the heavens and the earth.

Nick,

Hi KW,
So you grasp at hints that the body is not to be changed despite scriptural teaching

Are you claiming that no flesh will worship God when his people go and look on the carcases of those that have rebelled against him?

Nick,

Logic does not rule scripture

God is not irrational and therefore what he says is full of reason.