LU,

John 20:17Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

According to you God is Jesus’ Father because Jesus is the same kind as him. So since Jesus…[Read more]

LU,

You try to hold so tightly to your own reasoning.

I could say the same with you except some of your beliefs are not based on the evidence of Scripture. I have challenged you and a number of times you have failed to produce any Scriptures. There is nowhere in Scripture states that God sired Jesus, as of the body as Scripture explicitly…[Read more]

T8,

For by Him all things were created, b

The Koine Greek word seems in every other case to mean “inside” whether inside a group, a country, or something else. There appears to be some exceptions such as how it is used in Matthew 3:17. The translators of the version you are looking at it as if it is used to denote instrumentality.

T8,

If God made all things through the Word/Jesus Christ, then God was speaking to his Word & son by whom he made the universe.

That is a Trinitarian argument but it is pure speculation. A First Century Jewish belief is that God was speaking to his angels. There us no evidence I know of anyone who believed the Messiah was there though there…[Read more]

T,

as far that i know it is Moses that wrote the book of Genesis,so it most be the angel of God that told him what to write ,right ?

Tradition says it was Moses but I am not sure Scripture does. I think that Scripture only credits him with writing the laws. Genesis is a mixture if history, current events of that time, genealogies, and laws.…[Read more]

T,

as far that i know it is Moses that wrote the book of Genesis,so it most be the angel of God that told him what to write ,right ?

Tradition says it was Moses.

Charles,

A Jewish teaching. First Century or before is best. Testing its spirit against those of Scripture. If any evidence is sparse I will take guidance from a non-Jewish source that seems related to the words of Scripture. It is usually only for context for a passage. A hope to understand God’s words correctly.

As God laid the…[Read more]

Wakeup,

In English us can be used to speak of the actions of a group where only a few participate in the actual actions. For example when my favorite sports team one I said “we one”. If the company I am with sells a product to a client then it is “we sold them the product” even if I did not directly that activity.

T,

I tend to take it as meaning God is speaking of his host and talking in a group seance though he is actually the one that does the work. I point out that some angels are said to look like men and God said let us make man it our own image and likeness.

Gunstar54,
Only the forum on debates and group discussions has officially private discussions.

Anyone is invited to this conversation as he did not say otherwise and it is not in the official area for private discussions.

Wakeuop,

.Let US make man in OUR image; and in OUR likeness (US)? (OUR)? (plural)?

gods said “let us make man in our own image.

Translators understand that the plural elohim means only one God in this context. The ptonoun use may be like that or God is simply speaking to the heavenly host. I simply do not know about the ancient Hebrew…[Read more]

LU,

A reproduction if a famous painting does not even have to be in the same media. It is also not the same as a creature reproducing after its own kind.

“charaktér” is the ancestor of the English word character and in this case probably means much the same thing as Jesus has the exact characteristics of God’s nature as he wears the new man…[Read more]

T8,

1 Corinthians 15:44
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual. 47The fir…

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LU,

There is no evidence in Scripture that God reproduces after his kind. That is something the creatures of earth do. There is only one way God reproduces and that after the Spirit as spirit is born of Spirit.

David,

We can’t be using the bible to judge this because we are looking at the bible itself. And that has to mean that there is something else, something we are using to determine what is moral or immoral that is outside of the bible.

The opinion of your fellow human has pretty much been the defining quality of morality. That opinion is o…[Read more]

David,

So I’ve never believed that one spanking is going to turn a child into a murderer. I do believe that the more aggression that is shown, the more aggression that is modelled, the more aggresive the child is likely to be down the line and the more messed up they are likely to be down the line.

This study does not warrant that conclusion t…[Read more]

Wakeup,

1.How can the evening and the morning be the first day?

Darkness came first.

My question to you. If God was the light on the first ,second, third day;

I think there is night in day in the heavens that is the realm of angels as well. I am not sure how it is done but without those things God made on the Forth Night and Day there…[Read more]

LU,

The Son of God existed before the cosmos was created. He became the Son of Man also. All things were created through Him and for Him.

That is where your idea of what the title means and mine differ. A son of God is one who is righteous and holy as God is holy or one that is credited as being so. A son of the Devil is one that falls short…[Read more]

Camillia,

Kerwin, please explain to me what you understand the messianic age to be like.

To be honest I am not sure since I am still learning and what I think I know is discarded regularly. It was my thought that there was no death and dying during the Messianic Age and that men were not tempted by sin as Satan was imprisoned and therefore…[Read more]

Wakeup,

Considering God did not light the Sun, Moon, or stars until the Forth Night and Day it is a mystery how they could have lighted the Earth previously. If that was true then it was pretty dark on Earth as well as the rest of the Universe.

Of course even after I point that out there are those who insist that the Sun lit the earth before…[Read more]