T8,

I am not sure of what your point is.

As for the body, there is a physical body and there is a spiritual body

That is an inventive translation of 1 Corinthians 15:44 as I have no idea how someone can get the word physical out of the adjective form of soul.

Although, he existed in the form of God,

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Ed,

Thank you for reminding me.

To whomever is concerned;

Soft determinism allows for free will. I think that is the title of my understanding on this matter.

This passage sounds like it is based on determinism.

Acts 17:26-27New English Translation (NET Bible)

26 From one man he made every nation of the human race to inhabit the entire earth, determining their set times…

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Kaia,
I am doing fine even though I am challenged by God. I hope you are as well.

Hi Kaia,

Gene,

..WHAT EDJ is not taking into consideration is the man was already influenced to make that volintary move by pryer causes. None of that was a result of a WILL THAT WAS FREE AT ALL. EDJ as many do are getting God allowing us the liberty to excercise our captivated and influnced will as the wills themselves being free, nothing could be…

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Gene,

Ed is making the point that since Scripture endorsed idea of volunteering it cannot also support determinism.

determinism according to Google

the doctrine that all events, including human action, are ultimately determined by causes external to the will. Some philosophers have taken determinism to imply that individual human beings have…

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Gene,

Please read my post to Wakeup.

Wakeup,

You have to have some kind of evidence even if it is only a testimony. The Beareans are called noble for testing to see what Paul said was true. They did that by testing Scripture. I have several eye witness accounts that Jesus raised from his burial place. I view those witnesses as creditable.

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Gene,

The definition Google gives for voluntary is “done, given, or acting of one’s own free will.”. That implies that one does not always act of their free will. Compulsorily is defined as required by rule or law.

The short is that it is up to each individual to choose from within them if that person is to “go up to Jerusalem” or not.

Ed,

Which bible verse is that?

Gene,

So repeat his arguments and be prepared to defend them. If you tested them you should be able to do that. Put them forth and let your peers review them.

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Carmel,

From what I can see all of your last post was just something you or someone else made up. I see no attempt to make a case it is true.

T,

You do realize I used paraphrases of Scripture in my last post. What two passages are they?

T,

I believe that all Scripture is useful for teaching, training in righteousness, rebuking, and correcting. I also believe prophecy was spoken by the prophets as they carried along by the Spirit.

There are many places where scribes put down what what they saw or what they heard. These parts are also deemed to be useful and inspired by God.

T,

I was pointing out that despite what tradition said it may well be the same individual who wrote of the end of Moses’ life wrote of the rest of the first five books of Scripture. We do not know who wrote but that is not the important thing. It is important we believe what God says.

T,

I understand.

T,

i was under the impression that we were talking about the scroll of Geneses ?

You introduced the other four books of the Pentateuch into so I took it from there. The bottom line is that Scripture does not claim Moses wrote the book of Genesis or any of the other four. Claiming he did is a traditional teaching not a scriptural one.

T,

you just confirm what i try so many times to tell you; you follow your logic into what you have established to be true to you ;i believe what scriptures tells me ;i do believe that God is alone God and that their is no other god like him around anywhere ,and that he created his son as the very first creation ;this is spelled out in scriptures…

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