Wakeup,

They are workers of many generations all working for the same boss, and the same vineyard.
Not many different vineyards.

They could well be different generations though the idea I received was not different generations but rather different lengths of service and yet they all received the same reward.  There was no difference in the reward…[Read more]

Charles,

All Caps is always yelling from what I know.  If you want to make your posts distinct then color the text.

Gene,

Kerwin and camillia……..what ever “CAUSED” YOU to chose God in the first place was from God, he drawed us to JESUS,

True believers are drawn to Jesus by God because they hunger and thirst for righteousness.  A fisherman draws a fish to the hook with a lure.  A man in the parks draws pigeons to him by spreading bread crumbs.

Wakeup,

Assuming you are correct about the labors symbolizing the various groups of workers in the vineyard and I see no evidence Jesus was trying to make that point then there are five groups of laborers not the two you mention.

The division in Scripture is Jew and Gentile not the Jew and Christian division we have today.  The only division…[Read more]

@wakeup,

The statement “THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST, AND THE FIRST LAST” seems to mean that come first in some way will come last in the same way later and those that are last in some way will come first in the same way later”.  By itself the statement is vague and I missed how it applied the parable because I had the wrong understanding for it for…[Read more]

Wakeup,

THE JEWS WERE CALLED FIRST ;THEY WILL BE LAST RESURRECTED.(IN THE SECOND RESURRECTION).
THE GENTILES WERE CALLED LAST;THEY WILL BE RESURRECTED FIRST.
THE JEWS MUST GO THROUGH THE 1000YEAR OF LEARNING ;THEN RESURRECTED.
THIS IS WHAT THE KINGDOM IS FOR. (REWARDS GIVEN FOR WORKS DONE, NOT FOR JUST FOR GETTING WET)

This conclusion does not…[Read more]

Gene,

T has it correct as God working in you is the Spirit in is role of Councilor teaching an immersed believer.  For God to work in you, you have to choose to live according to the Spirit and so not according to the flesh.

God does not make my choices for me though  he does know beforehand what I will choose and he puts the choice there for m…[Read more]

Gene,

Foretelling does not take away the will of the participants in a future event than it does in a past event.   When God is the one you are speaking of it is more like everything is already do and the future.  It is a hard concept for us who exist within time to grasp but God created time or there would not have been a first night and da…[Read more]

Gene,

Even if God determines each of our future it does not mean that there is no free will.  God is both intelligent enough and knowledgeable to determine our future without the having the to control us.

God proofs/tests hearts.

Gene,

God knows what we will choose but he does not make the choice for us.  He does put the choice before us(determinism).

Gene,

God is who he is and so knows all thinks.  He looks at all things as if they have already occurred.    You can do a shadow of the same thing by looking backwards in  time and predicted what happened at a certain time.  Your knowledge of the past did not prevent those involved from having free will neither does God’s knowledge of the futur…[Read more]

Wakeup,

Matthew 23:1-3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
23 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: 3 all therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Matthew 16:11Authorized (Kin…

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T8,

Thanks!

Camillia,

I have found no evidence such a study was actually done. There seems to be those who claim it is the blood of the gods.

Unless there is a direct correlation between a factor and a behavior associated with that factor it is not evidence to support the lack of free will. Even if there is it may not be evidence for the lack of free…[Read more]

Journey,

The AV of the KJV says high places but since it translated it from a word that literally means sky or space and figuratively means the realm of angels it is a synonym of heavenly in that case.

The point I was more concerned about is that you seem to believe our battle is against flesh and blood.

T,

There are tribulations but the Tribulation seems a one time event lasting over several periods of time, possibly brief times. The Sixth Seal is when the 144,000 are first mentioned in Revelations. Assuming that the Sixth Seal is an Age then it seem to be close to the end. Some parts of it even make it sound like the end. I see nothing to…[Read more]

Gene,

Yes, our free will comes from our desires and our intellect. I am not even sure it is possible or a good idea for a human being to make a decision free from all desires for the sum of the law is love.

The fruit I bear testifies about who I, as a soul and therefor a person, am. You can claim I am programmed because that is true but free…[Read more]

t8,
using the color picker did not work after I posted it though it did show up in color in visual mode. html works in some cases but not in all and when it works the icons work.

Wakeup,

Thank you.

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