Wakeup,

It sounds like you are claiming God’s woman is Wisdom, aka Sophia.   In the old testament she is called chokmah as Sophia is Koine Greek and Wisdom is English.

Wakeup,

I do not find your view rational.  I find God rational.

Gene,

Ezekiel 36:27Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Cause and effect does not oppose free choice.  God is the cause of those that receive the Spirit living by it as you live by the Spirit by faith.   God works thr…[Read more]

Camillia,

Thank you accept is was supposed to say “at each and every turn” instead of “in each and every turn “.  My error 🙂

Gene,

Advocate for free will do not believe that random will is free will.    That in itself means the will is directed.  It is directed by the individual themselves.  In my understanding one of the persons desires is directing their choice.  Hypothetically of I was able to determine which desire was overriding at any one time and I knew all t…[Read more]

Gene,

Correct, therefore the will itself is not free, it’s the liberty to EXCERCISE THOSE DRIVEN DESIRES that is free.

When I say free will I do not mean it is free of my desires.  According to Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary desire means among other things “ to long or hope for“.  I would be a computer if I made choice that were not dri…[Read more]

Carmillia,

So many other verses where God pleads for us to turn to Him. We are clearly given the choice. Just because God who knows everything can foresee into the future and knows all about us does not mean we have no choice, otherwise…. (more to say but i will leave it there as it gets too deep).

It does seem to get complex and so hard to u…[Read more]

Gene,

My choices are free but clearly they are not free of my own desires.   In fact my choices stem from my own desires; be they intellectual, emotional, or otherwise.

Gene,

My choices are free but clearly they are not free of my own desires.   In fact my choices stem from my own desires be they intellectual, emotional, or otherwise.

Cammillia,

I believe that is just a different use of the word will.  It seems to means desire in that sentence and choice when you are speaking of free will.  I cannot be sure as desires and choice are linked.

Journey,

I acknowledge that words differ from wakeup’s as you have the relationship of Jews to Gentiles instead of the relationship of Jews to Christians he used.  I was addressing his wording and not yours in the above post.  Look at Romans 1:16 and Romans 2: 9,10  which clearly seem to reveal that the Jews will be rewarded first.  Please not…[Read more]

Wakeup and Journey,

The first one at the coming,
and the next one after the 1000 years.

Jesus spoke of two resurrections, the   resurrection of life and the resurrection of damnation.

John 5:29Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, un…

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Gene,

Our will is captivated by our desires but that means what.   I do what I desire means I exercise my free will.  When I am captivated by my own evil desire which I desire to be free from I am still exercising my free will.

God created my will but it is my will and I am the one that excises it not God.

I am the one that chooses whether to…[Read more]

Wakeup,

Given that the words sum up the message of the parable the way it sounds is that each will be awarded equally no matter how long the length of their service.

In  the parable the first were paid the same as the last and last were paid the same as the first.

If it is not part of the parable then it could well mean those that seek to be…[Read more]

Wakeup,

If you truly think you are on the right track; just go for it. You have a free choice.

I see no reason to do otherwise and assume the same is true of anyone.

Wakeup,

Kerwin ;it seems that you are putting on a stiff neck.

I have no problem with admitting I am wrong as can be seen from my writing.   Does your writing say the same about you?

Wakeup,

Those righteous gentiles did not work or serve Christ nor God

What evidence support your claim?

Jonah was sent to a nation of Gentiles.

Wakeup,

Abraham walked this earth about 2000 BC.  The first Jew, Jacob, came three generations later.  There were many generations before as well as the Great Deluge.   There were many people that labored until then and you Jew/Christian teaching leaves out many of those.  It also leaves out the righteous Gentiles that existed at the same time…[Read more]

Gene,

..But who put that will in them in the first place, God did, nothing free about it,

God is our create and he gave us a will.  The fact he gave us a will does not free.   A man whose will is to hunger and thirst for righteousness is free to exercise it even God created him with a will that hungers and thirsts for ri…[Read more]