A Christian can condemn themselves in what they allow. That Christian would be happier not to do so.

Nick,

I did not say it was. My point is it is a pleasant gift.

Ed,

Thank you for apologizing.

I have done so as well when I see a point I desire to make.

Nick,

Hi KW,

I have??
With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all
Now Stephen, a man full of God’s grace and power, performed great wonders and signs among the people.

Acts 11:23
When he arrived and saw what the grace of God had done, he was…

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Nick,

I know the works done by God’s servant are by grace because there is no way to please God without God’s grace.

bodhitharta,

Israel did struggle with following false gods but it was not the point that is under debate. The issue I rose is that the words god and more than one definition and context reveals its meaning in a passage. In the book of Deuteronomy Moses tells the children of Israel that their god is the god of gods. He is not the god of false…[Read more]

EDJ,

This is not the subject I was speaking to Gene about.

The bottom line is does Jesus from being the same kind of being as YÄ-hä-vā.

He is the same of being as David his father.

God fathered him through his Spirit just as through him he fathers many grandchildren, aka sons.

Like him they are God’s children, as of the Spirit.

It is not di…[Read more]

bodhitharta,

Gene is using a red herring as far as I am concerned. I am not speaking of there being multiple beings of the same kind God is. He is the only one. I am instead speaking of the fact that the word god has more than one definition. Any creditable dictionary of the English language tells us that. He just chooses to believe what is…[Read more]

Gene,

If I am an accuser of my brother, I do it no more than the prophets of old who warned the Israelites of the coming sword. I bear no guilt for not saying “peace, peace; when there is no peace”. Strive to be honest in all things, even to yourself.

Gene,

You seem to hold to a doctrinal definition of grace. In scripture is does not mean that. The word means that which gives pleasure. For example a gift. It can also be used mean the gift itself or for the thanks for that gift. The last is why it is said that those that give thanks for a meal are saying grace.

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Nick,

As you say, God’s work are of grace. He showed grace to his servant King David, although the later committed murder, and promised that the Christ would be made of his seed according to the flesh.

Gene,

I have said what I have said and I see no reason to repeat myself to infinity. You have no case.

I am but a student and you need to learn from the teacher so I will bow out of this conversation that teaching me nothing except that there are those that choose to live by the nature of the beast. I am troubled enough by that nature myself.

Gene,

Your logic is flawed for this reason.

My claim is Jehovah god is god of godlike ones as one definition of the word Hebrew word translated god.

You claim

God cannot be because there in only one god.

You are changing my words and then addressing the straw-man you created which is deceptive.

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Gene,

Your logic is flawed for this reason.

My claim is Jehovah god is god of godlike ones as one definition of the word Hebrew word translated god.

You claim

God cannot be because there in only one god.

You are changing my words and then addressing them which is deceptive.

Because I say elohim cannot be defined as godlike one is not a…[Read more]

Gene,

Because of your choice to disbelieve you are calling Moses a liar. Moses did not say “Jehovah your god is the god of false gods”. He was not even saying anything about false gods in the passage. The lexicon is correct about the word elohim meaning godlike one and other things and the thoughts in your mind are wrong. You have no support…[Read more]

I see this as an intellectual idea. It is a debate of genealogies. I enjoy the exercise but it resolves nothing and there are more important things to be right about.

Gene,

The fact you did not show me leads me to believe you realize it is not there. In short you are not going by Scripture but instead by what is in your mind.

Carmel,

I said it so you could go over them and find the red herring and remove it. It was my assumption you wanted to make sound and valid points. If you do not care whether or not you do then why should I waste anymore words in attempt to help you.

Gene,

Please show me one word where Moses states the gods Jehovah is god of are false gods. It is not there. Your will not even find the words “so called”. If you chooses to add it then you are adding to the Law. Beware of doing such things.

Gene,

When Moses literally state that Jehovah your god is god is god of gods then he is literally stating that God is superior to gods. According to your teaching that can only mean that Jehovah is superior to other deities. That interpretation you allow if you refuse to admit the word god has other meaning than Jehovah kind. So by your chose…[Read more]