kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
There is evidence that Jude might have quoted from 1 Enoch but I am not sure it is the edition we have today. The Hades described in 1 Enoch has four parts and the the one Jesus used in his parable has two.
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
The parable of the rich man’s message was that there was those that would not even believe the truth if Jesus was raised from the death, much less if a ghost of a man suffering in Sheol was to tell them. The message was also hidden from his disciples until later as they seem to have no idea that he would sacrifice himself to rescue the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
I have a heave course schedule plus an addiction to computer games I fight. I post here but I tend to get addictive in that as well and ignore actually living according to God’s word. I like to discuss things and I do know why Jesus stated he spoke in parable. I also know he did claim to use use heresies for the same purpose. The bot…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Andrew,
You might want to look at the wording before you make commendations on it as Jesus often used the keyword “like”. It is quite possible a woman would search diligently for a loss coin as my father used to search diligently for enough money to buy his next drink.
On the other hand if I told my sister that I was the inside of the dish a…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
So to you GOD WHO IS A SPIRIT HAS NO INTELLIGENCE, THE PARABLES MEAN ABSOLUTELY AS SPOKEN AND DO NOT MEAN SOMETHING ELSE,AND A LIVING SOUL DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BODY.
Here you see Gene speaking with authority which is part of the ethos appeal. His arguments are logically flawed as they are dependent on his creditability and do not stand by…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Gene does not use logical reasoning, which is used in a logos argument.
His preferred style is ethos
Ethos (Credibility), or ethical appeal, means convincing by the character of the author. We tend to believe people whom we respect. One of the central problems of argumentation is to project an impression to the reader that you are someone…
kerwin replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Gene does not use logical reasoning, which is used in a logos argument.
His preferred style is ethos
<b>Ethos (Credibility),</b> or <b>ethical appeal</b>, means convincing by the character of the author. We tend to believe people whom we respect. One of the central problems of argumentation is to project an impression to the reader that…
kerwin replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
Kerwin……Where did i say the breath return to GOD, SCRIPTURE DOES NOT SAY THAT AS FAR AS I HAVE SEEN, what i said was the “spirit” returns to GOD WHO GAVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So you do not comprehend that the breath is the wind(spirit) that returns to God.
In Ecclesiastes 12:7 we are told that the body returns to dust and the spirit…[Read more]
kerwin started the topic Early evidence of the 40 years in the desert in the forum Evidence for the Bible 11 years, 6 months ago
Dated to 1220 BC, the Stele of Pharaoh Merneptah at Karnak records the first mention of the Israelites that is external to the Old Testament. Merneptah claims to have defeated these among others, during a punitive expedition into Canaan. An associated wall relief appears to exhibit the Israelites living in tents (as opposed to walled cities of…
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
You keep claiming a religious teaching of that day is false while knowing Jesus used in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. You have an issue where the two facts are not coming together for you. If they were you would not be calling the teaching false or you would have a reason why you believe Jesus uses a false teaching as the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Those words that are confirmed by Scripture are known to be true, those that are denied by Scripture are false, those that are neither confirmed or denied by Scripture may or may not be true.
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
He may well have been based his parable on a true event as the parable of ten minas does have a basis in fact as one of the inheritors of Herod did have to go into a far country to receive his inheritance. There were certainly farmers in plenty who had enemies that would sow bad see in they fields. You could have used a better example…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Happy is he that condemneth not himself in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
Being stoned for a crime is a cost. A person who commits a mortal sin thus voluntarily commits the crime with full knowledge of the cost will be if they get caught. If a law written on stone compelled people to do right then we would write our laws on stone and people could not choose to do wrong. Instead they just tell a person if they…[Read more]kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Yes.
kerwin replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
I believe you are looking at an outdated definition as others claim the same and a Google search of the phrase pulls up the entry which does have the word fictitious in it. I am not sure why they changed it though I expect it was because of controversy. They were not saying that all parable are fictitious so is not evidence Jesus used a…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Jesus does not legitimatize my sources. My sources are just to determine the context of the time that Jesus lived and get rid of speculation. For example I use the book of 1 Enoch, whose teaching are half false.
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
I do.
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Gene,
I am not going to agree with your insistence that Jesus used an existing false teaching in his parable. The first book of Enoch which was written before Jesus was conceived of Mary speaks of Sheol, the land of the dead. Jesus describes it different but the bottom it was a teaching that was in existence at the time and the ones that heard…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 6 months ago
Nick,
Your words are presumptuous. I did not say I regarded sources as equal. If you paid attention to my words then you would know I do and so would not make an accusation that is false.
For your own reasons you do not like what I said but you also cannot disprove it. So you deny it. Your reason may because you are grieving for some…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Does the "Whole Earth" mean the "planet" in scripture? in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 6 months ago
SeekingTruth,
Unless I made an error I did not say either the site or you were liars. You could say I implied it as I was saying sites of the same type lied. It was not my intention. I said I trust you.
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