AndrewAD,

Jesus cannot make anyone come to him so why would we think we can. Those that will be saved through the new covenant will come to him because they hunger and thirst for righteousness while those that love sin will not come to him. The best a believer can do is speak the true message boldly and strive to remove obstacles from the paths…[Read more]

Nick,

The Spirit of the Son worships and serves the Father.

rom 8.15

That is why we are instructed to walk according to the Spirit.

It takes time and our cooperation before the Spirit dwelling in believers manifests.

gal 4.19

The verse is speaking of children in Christ who are not yet mature.

Jarl,

Yes, the holy spirit leads those who seek true.

Nick,

So you fail to understand Scripture.

God dwells in believers through his own Spirit and Jesus Christ dwells in believers through his Spirit. It is not two Spirits but rather one with two names. (1 Corinthians 3:16)

It is about being Spiritually unified with Christ.

EdJ,

The Hebrew and Greek spoken today are different from the dead languages that preceded them just as modern English is different that old English.

Many hypothesize that the NT was written in Koine Greek only but I do not know if there is any evidence to support that claim.

Nick,

That is what I am speaking of because if one does not have the Spirit of Christ in them doing its work then that one does not have Christ in them.

Gene,

Your words are contradicting the words of James that faith without works is dead. This is because you are confused by the works of the flesh vs. the works of the Spirit. Paul often the earlier and James is addressing the later though he uses the earlier as an example.

Galatians 5:19-23New English Translation (NET Bible)

19 Now the…

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Jael,

It is literally impossible to use just the Scripture as evidence because it was written in another language, a dead one at that. We therefore rely on experts to translate it and make decisions about what scribal source to use and what scribal source not to use. In some cases we do not know if a passage is in the original source or was a…[Read more]

Nick,

You should work more at understanding me for your words run are at a tilt from what I actually said.

What I stated was a paraphrase of the words of Hebrews 6:4-6.

If I were sin I hope never to do what that passage speaks for it sounds like it speaks of a sin that leads to death. Instead I hope that I ever commit are due to lack of mature…[Read more]

Nick,

You should work more at understanding me your words run are at a tilt from what I actually said.

What I stated was a paraphrase of the words of Hebrews 6:4-6.

If I were sin I hope never to do what that passage speaks for it sounds like it speaks of a sin that leads to death. Instead I hope that I ever commit are due to lack of mature…[Read more]

Nick,

You should work more at understanding me your words run are at a tilt from what I actually said.

What I stated was a paraphrase of the words of Hebrews 6:4-6.

If I were sin I hope never to do what that passage speaks for it sounds like it speaks of a sin that leads to death. Instead I hope that I ever commit are due to lack of mature…[Read more]

Gene,

There is two kind of works. The first is the works of the flesh and the second is the works of the Spirit. No one can please God by the works of the flesh but God is pleased by the works of the Spirit. Abraham has faith but he did not bear its works. God was satisfied with his faith knowing that Abraham would be made perfect by the…[Read more]

Gene,

I brought it up so I understood the present tense that James used. Paul also seems to admit the same thing in a passage Nick brought up and I quoted on the previous page. That does not mean that they were not looking forward made perfect before they died. In fact the other passages that is what they looked forward to.

James made an…[Read more]

Jael,

Trinitarians debate those things among themselves.

Gene and Nick,

James did say these words but even it is present tense and speaks of at vague number of exceptions.

James 3:2New English Translation (NET Bible)

2 For we all stumble in many ways. If someone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect individual, able to control the entire body as well.

Gene,

Scripture declare perfection is a goal that is possible.

1 John 4:12New English Translation (NET Bible)

12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God resides in us, and his love is perfected in us.

1 John 2:5New English Translation (NET Bible)

5 But whoever obeys his word, truly in this person the love of God has been…

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Gene,

All things occur by God’s grace so Paul was uttering a clearly evident truth for a specific purpose. It was probably aimed at those that boasted in themselves or whose teachings relied on human effort but otherwise I do not see where it relevant due to it being an all present factor.

For example one walks both according to the flesh and…[Read more]

Gene,

All things occur by God’s grace so Paul was uttering a clearly evident truth for a specific purpose. It was probably aimed at those that boasted in themselves or whose teachings relied on human effort but otherwise I do not see where it relevant due to it being an all present factor.

For example one walks both according to the flesh and…[Read more]

Gene,

Having faith in God does not prevent stumbling at times.

I have to disagree for it is written.

Romans 1:17New English Translation (NET Bible)

17 For the righteousness of God is revealed in the gospel from faith to faith, just as it is written, “The righteous by faith will live.”

A stumble is a sign of faith that is not complete. To…[Read more]

Gene,

The statement “many time we do stumble” reveals a lack of faith and the way of Jesus is one of faith. I have stumbled many times in the past but that does not mean I will in the future not does it mean another will.