kerwin replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
Human wisdom does not get a good press in scripture.
But you admire it?
Are you saying Job and Paul’s word’s are based on human wisdom?
Their reasoning is inspired because it comes from God.
God commands us to reason with him and the only way that can be done is if he himself uses reason.
His reason is not human…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
Human wisdom does not get a good press in scripture.
But you admire it?
Are you saying Job and Paul’s word’s are based on human wisdom?
There reasoning is inspired because it comes from God.
God commands us to reason with him and the only way that can be done is if he himself uses reason.
His reason is not human…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL,
Nicodemus is the perfect illustration of this – he, as a distinguished teacher in Israel, could not comprehend with his natural mind the very basic things of the Spirit, as Jesus revealed…
Nicodemus probably did understand Jesus as his follow up actions were favorable to him.
As a student he asked questions showing a great hum…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL,
You say:
Reason is related to the human mind, and is vital for natural understanding – yet (as should be obvious) the things of the Spirit are far above and beyond the intellect and logic of man..
Job says:
Job 9:14American Standard Version (ASV)
14 How much less shall I answer him, And choose out my words to reason with h…
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL and others.
Wikipedia:Depiction of JesusFrom the middle of the 4th century, after Christianity was legalized by the Edict of Milan in 313, and gained Imperial favour, there was a new range of images of Christ the King, using either of the two physical types described above, but adopting the costume and often the poses of Imperial…
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL,
Why are you following a version of the imperial cult of the Roman Empire?
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Davidl,
The Holy Spirit is part of God and cannot be amputated. God existed with Jesus Christ for many ages. Jesus Christ was not made of a woman and under the Law for God but he was made for mankind.
I know that Trinitarian nonsense insists conceive means a different thing when applied to Jesus than when applied to every other human in…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Davidl,
The Holy Spirit is part of God and cannot be amputated. God existed with Jesus Christ for many ages. Jesus Christ was not made of a woman and under the Law for God but he was made for mankind.
I know that Trinitarian nonsense insists conceive means a different thing when applied to Jesus than when applied to every other human in…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL,
Philippians 2:6English Standard Version (ESV)
6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
You have no support here as the original word is better translated to form or shape which is a synonym of image.
This is an example we Christians are to follow as the new self is made in the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
David,
There is no tri-unity mentioned in Scripture. There is just the unity of Spirit and the unity of Faith and they are two different names for same unity. There in no unity of essence mention as that is just an invention of men.
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL,
“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”It is known that this song was sung to human kings when they were married. It applies to Jesus because he is the Son of Man and symbolizes his marriage to the church.
Therefore, this psa…
kerwin replied to the topic Are angels and spirits seperate creatures? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Gene’s belief in these things is connected to the age of Enlightenment but they also have some parallels to the teachings of the enlightenment.
The teaching that angels are spirit is a Gnostic teaching that uses some verses of Scripture that are open to interpretation in order to support it.
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Psalm 49:12-14American Standard Version (ASV)
12 But man being in honor abideth not: He is like the beasts that perish.
13 This their way is their folly: Yet after them men approve their sayings. Selah
14 They are appointed as a flock for Sheol; Death shall be their shepherd; And the upright shall have dominion over…
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Interesting passage;
Psalm 49:12-14American Standard Version (ASV)
12 But man being in honor abideth not: He is like the beasts that perish.
13 This their way is their folly: Yet after them men approve their sayings. Selah
14 They are appointed as a flock for Sheol; Death shall be their shepherd; And the upright shall have dominion…
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
That is a part of a sentence you choose to take literally even though you are aware that some translate it the mortal body.
Do you have any other passage that supports your choice.
Here is one that testifies that time will be cut short in order that flesh will be saved.
Matthew 24:22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 And except…
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
That is a part of a sentence you choose to take literally even though you are aware that some translate it the mortal body.
Do you have any other passage that supports your choice.
Here is one that testifies that time will be cut short in order that flesh will be saved.
Matthew 24:22Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
22 And except…
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
To all,
I believe it is plausible the imperial cult was an element in the development of the Trinity. The council of Nicea declared emperor Jesus Christ as one of the gods just as some Roman emperors were and did not voice an opinion about the Holy Spirit.
It may have happened instinctively instead of being premeditated.
kerwin replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
David,
Jesus declare “I and the Father are one” but you do not believe it or you would believe that Jesus teaches they live by the same Spirit. This is confirmed because Scripture teaches they are one in the Spirit.
You claim they are one in essence but that is not written in Scripture but instead God demonstrates their essence is not the…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
“I instead say that a body that is submissive to the Holy Spirit is physical and immortal.”
Unless a seed falls to the ground and dies it remains but a single seed.
Are you not awaiting the new body?
The body I am in at the current time is not submissive to the Holy Spirit but subject to corruption.
I would rather be ful…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
“I instead say that a body that is submissive to the Holy Spirit is physical and immortal.”
Unless a seed falls to the ground and dies it remains but a single seed.
Are you not awaiting the new body?
The body I am in at the current tome is not submissive to the Holy Spirit but subject to corruption.
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