Nick,

Why are you striving so much to hang onto a teaching that is not written in Scripture?

Human words are subject to the manipulation of the flesh and yet Jesus uses them to speak Spiritual messages.

Nick,

The Spirit comes from God.

The wind is not different.

I assume you are referencing Jesus word’s which is more about the effects of the wind and how it is seen only by those effects.

Nick,

Hi KW,

No Jesus and Paul told us-by the Spirit.

I have not disagreed with that idea yet.

Logical reasoning is a tool the Spirit can choose to use and is not in opposition to the Spirit.

It is the flesh that is in opposition to the Spirit.

The Spirit went into synagogues and reasoned from Scripture with the Jews.

The Spirit…[Read more]

Nick,

I can speculate on the mechanism but that is all since Scripture chose not to say.

Nick,

Jesus taught us to be as innocent as a dove and as wise as a serpent. Children are regarded as innocent.

Nick,

Logical reasoning is useless if you do not believe the premises so belief must come before logical reasoning reveals anything.

Nick,

Hi KW,

Before Abraham was I am.

Of course the eternal Spirit was before all things.

But

is this logical?

Does it have to fit through you logic filter?

Yes, God is before all thing and the Spirit is his Spirit.

Jesus said “the scripture cannot be broken” and so everything in Scripture is logical which is why Jesus uses logical…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Before Abraham was I am.

Of course the eternal Spirit was before all things.

But

is this logical?

Does it have to fit through you logic filter?

Yes, God is before all thing and the Spirit is his Spirit.

Jesus said “the scripture cannot be broken” and so everything in Scripture is logical why is why Jesus uses logical in…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Just as the Trinitarian frames everything his way

you must find logic expressed somehow or you cannot accept truth?

I choose not to deny the truth.

As it sits any time you deride logic reasoning you deride Jesus and his students for using it.

You already know your teaching about logic is no of Scripture and yet you choose…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Just as the Trinitarian frames everything his way

you must find logic expressed somehow or you cannot accept truth?

I choose not deny the truth.

As it sits any time you deride logic reasoning you deride Jesus and his students for using it.

You already know your teaching about logic is no of Scripture and yet you choose to…[Read more]

Nick.

God reveals truth just as Peter was taught about Christ Jesus.

Why do you feel have the authority to tell God how he reveals truth?

We do not know the mechanism God used to reveal because it is not written. We know the conclusion that Peter came to because it is written that he declares Jesus is the Christ; the Son of the Living…[Read more]

Nick,

Hi KW,

Indeed his words are spirit and truth.

Why would you add in logic?

It is Jesus that choose to use logical reasoning not me. Your complaint is with him; so ask him.

My answer is you have been taught a falsehood and you grown overly fond of it.

Nick,

Jesus was confident the Sadducees believed that “God is not the God of the dead” and since it is written “For no one remembers you in the realm of death, In Sheol who gives you thanks” (Psalms 6:5) I can see where that might be derived from through using logical reasoning.

Nick,

Jesus is a Jew and his audience was Jews so there is no reason for him to acknowledge the Greeks.

He was interpenetrating Scripture in order to reveal that that the OT teaches there is a resurrection.

It is Jesus’ words and his words are not those of man but are instead those of heaven.

Be careful of what you say.

Nick,

You have no support for what you just wrote in Scripture and yet you continue to repeat those words. Why?

Nick,

That is a premise.

It helps support the conclusion and as it is part of the input of the argument. The conclusion is the output of the argument.

Logical reasoning is just the form of the argument.

DavidL,

We have so much confusion because many do not want to come out into the light though they want the name of doing so and because the house of Satan is divided against itself.

DavidL,

Reason is good – it’s just not the way to interpret Scripture..

In fact – reason is the reason we have so much confusion..

it usurps the voice of God.

Scripture literally tells us Paul reasoned from Scripture and if you know the form of a logical argument you can see cases where Jesus and his Apostles use logical reasoning throu…[Read more]

DavidL,

Put simply –
Scripture was given by the Spirit..
and must be received by the Spirit.

This is true and Jesus knew it was true even as he used a logical argument to prove their is a resurrection of the dead to the Sadducees. Part of his argument was that Scripture cannot be broken.

Those that teach Scripture can be broken are not from God.

DavidL,

By corrupted manuscripts you mean those that disagree with your interpretation.

The AV of the KJV disagrees with your teaching as Jesus is called a human being in it and he calls the Father of us all God.

I know of no manuscripts that agree though there is certainly corruptions such as one verse that claims God shed blood despite the…[Read more]