kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Terrarica,
Thank you, I had forgotten that the AV of the KJV has antiquated verb forms.
kerwin replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Gene,
Yes, God is the one that teaches through his Spirit but what I claim is not in error even though I did not say that as Jesus claims his utterances as his own though he also made it plain it other areas they came from God.
After all, he also claims he and God are united as one person; though not as God but instead Spiritually.
kerwin replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
No the words of Jesus are spirit and life.
The tools you offer are carnal.
So why do you claim that both Jesus, Paul, and others of Scripture used carnal tools to teach the truth.
I am confident they acted and spoke using tools as they were carried along by the Spirit.
Why do you doubt?
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Yes, the righteous live by faith.
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
terrarica,
According to Jesus we must live by the truth to see the light
Did a search of the AV of the KJV and did not find it. Could you please give me the address of those words. Thank you.
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
To be immersed in the name of Jesus is to die with him.
But it is not to be raised to new life.
That disagrees with what Paul taught the Romans for he wrote:
Romans 6:3-4Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried…
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
It is somewhat figurative but it is not general.
He states that those that are immersed in Jesus have their old self perish with Jesus on the cross and rise to live with him.
You already know the old self lives by the flesh and that those that are immersed in the name of Jesus are immersed in water.
Why do you doubt that being immersed…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Romans 6 clearly states that being immersed in Jesus Christ is to be immersed into his death. It also claims that the old self died with him and just as a believer died with then so they live with him.
As we have already discussed the old self lives by the flesh and the new self lives by the Spirit.
The bonds to sin are broken when a…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
The Spirit is one of the teachers and logic and inference are tools of that trade. The other teacher is Jesus Christ. They teach as one person though the Spirit is not a person.
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
I have no idea where your last words come from as just previously I asked if you agree with Marty.
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Yes, those who are not born of the Spirit cannot walk by the Spirit.
It is only those that are immersed in water by the authority of Jesus Christ that are born of Spirit just as Paul testifies in Romans 6 when he states the old man is put to death and the new man arises from the water.
kerwin replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Terraricca,
Before I said.
Terraricca,
Yes, many were credited with righteousness before the new covenant but those that become fully mature in Christ are pure and righteous before God.
It is superior to being credited with righteousness.
Scripture states about those under the law that God looked down from above and saw that none that…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Terraricca,
Before I said.
Terraricca,
Yes, many were credited with righteousness before the new covenant but those that become fully mature in Christ are pure and righteous before God.
It is superior to being credited with righteousness.
Scripture states about those under the law that God looked down from above and saw that none that…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
We have already covered this. The righteousness from God is to put on the new self created like God in true righteousness and holiness. Those that wear their old self do not have it though they may have received it by adherence to the true gospel.
Walk by the Spirit and you will the fruits of the Spirit and not the fruits of the flesh…[Read more]
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
As it is written ;there is none righteous, no not even one.rom.3.10
Except you?
Be careful to get the whole message before repeating it.
Romans 3:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all…
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Hi KW,
As it is written ;there is none righteous, no not even one.rom.3.10
Except you?
Why quote words out of context.
Romans 3:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become…
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years, 1 month ago
Nick,
Do you agree with Marty’s last post to me?
kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years, 1 month ago
942767,
That also sounds like what I have heard from Scripture.
kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
terraricca,
Some translations obscure it by their choice of words but the American Standard Version seems not to do so as much.
Job 26:6
Sheol is naked before God, And Abaddon hath no covering.Proverbs 15:11
Sheol and Abaddon are before Jehovah: How much more then the hearts of the children of men!Proverbs 27:20
Sheol and Abaddon are never…kerwin replied to the topic False: Christ's righteousness imputed to believers in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 1 month ago
terraricca,
Some translations obscure it by their choice of words but the American Standard Version seems not to do so as much.
Job 26:6
Sheol is naked before God, And Abaddon hath no covering.Proverbs 15:11
Sheol and Abaddon are before Jehovah: How much more then the hearts of the children of men!Proverbs 27:20
Sheol and Abaddon are never…- Load More

