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    Terrarica,

    Like other humans he is called the image of the invisible God. (Colossians 3:10)

    Jesus is called the firstborn of creation just like when God states he will appoint ‘David’ his firstborn son. (Psalms 89:27)

    Did you not hear when Jehovah appointed him with the words “This is my one dear Son; in him I take great delight”? (Matthew 3:17)

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    Terrarica,

    What does the Spirit reveal that are called “deep things of God”?

    Galatians 5:22-23New English Translation (NET Bible)

    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

    The fruits are the deep things of…[Read more]

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    Terrarica,

    you have it right ;the spirit of man is the spirit OF a human

    and the spirit OF God is the spirit OF a GOD (not God )

    So you disagree with the translators who believe it is speaking of God and instead believe it is speaking of the Christ but I agree with them as I believe the Spirit teaches the deep things of God, which Jesus…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    God is present in all of creation and always has been. His Spirit is not as where it is the fruits of the Spirit are seen. The fruit of the Spirit is “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control”. When the fruit is revealed by a believer then God can be seen living in that person. When…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    God is present in all of creation and always has been. His Spirit is not as where it is the fruits of the Spirit are seen. The fruit of the Spirit is “love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, self-control”. When the fruit is revealed by a believer then God can be seen living in that person. When…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    That promise and a few others of Jesus are found in the B-attitudes.

    Elsewhere Jesus teaches us “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil” (John 3:19).

    One again he teaches of merit but of those that merit destruction.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    Grace does not mean unmerited pardon as I already pointed out to you. It simply means favor or kindness. The “unmerited pardon” is a theological hypothesis.

    Jesus promised “blessed are they that hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled” so is Jesus a liar or do those that hunger and thirst for righteousness merit being…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    Grace does not mean unmerited pardon as I already pointed out to you. It simply means favor or kindness. The “unmerited pardon” is a theological hypothesis.

    Jesus promised “blessed are they that hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled” so is Jesus a liar or do those that hunger and thirst for righteousness merit being…[Read more]

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    Terrarica,

    Paul calls the Spirit that believes receive both the Spirit of God and the Spirit from God. He also claims it knows the deep things of God because it is God’s own Spirit.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    Thank you for your effort on my behalf.

    This is the short and regular definition of the transliteration of the Koine word charis translated to grace in Ephesians 2:8.

    Short Definition: grace, favor, kindness
    Definition: (a) grace, as a gift or blessing brought to man by Jesus Christ, (b) favor, (c) gratitude, thanks, (d) a favor,…

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    Nick,

    He saw something that revealed the presence of the Holy Spirit.

    Do you believe the believers suddenly began being the fruits of the Spirit and Simon saw them or do you believe he saw the gifts but Scripture chooses not to mention them?

    Acts 19 specifically mentions the gifts being given by the the Spirit and it is the only other…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    Please stop capitalizing as it is distracting.

    Some of what you say that sounds good.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Nick,

    The gift of prophesy was given quite commonly in the OT. The gifts of healing and miracles is rarer an I know of nowhere the gift of tongues or the interpretation of tongues is mentioned. Faith is mention but I do not know if it is a gift when mentioned and I am not sure what the discernment of spirits is.

    In the case of the Seventy…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 11 years ago

    Gene,

    Is faith now a work of the Law?

    It is living by the Spirit that leads to salvation for those that walk according to the flesh will not enter the kingdom of God.

    The grace of God is we exist and all good things are his grace.

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    Terrarica,

    Do you believe the spirit of a human being is that human being?

    If no then why do you believe the Spirit of God is God?

    1 Corinthians 2:9-13New English Translation (NET Bible)

    9 But just as it is written, “Things that no eye has seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, are the things God has prepared for those who love him.” 10 God…

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    Nick,

    You believe Simon’s thoughts imply more than they do.

    Simon saw the giving of the gifts of the Spirit and was envious. That does not mean that Paul did not speak the truth when he stated a believer is buried with Christ in immersion and is raised up from that death in the newness of life.

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    Gene,

    It sounds like you are claiming Jesus died for nothing as imputed righteousness was available to Abraham and others.

    Scripture tells us the new covenant is greater than anything that went before.

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    Nick,

    Hi KW,

    Why should anyone align with your assumptions?

    Truth is written.

    Why are you afraid of what is written?

    Here is the question again.

    I have given evidence in both this thread and the one about the false teaching that Jesus’ righteousness is imputed to believers that the Holy Spirit gave gifts both in in the old covenant a…

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    Terrarica,

    It would not be the unity of the Spirit if it was not the Spirit.

    God’s Spirit is the teacher of the human spirit.

    Do you call the human spirit that has been taught by God the Holy Spirit?

    God’s Spirit is the Spirit that gift to human beings.

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    Nick,

    So you have formed your teaching on your observances of what is written in those two passages and yet one specifically mentions that the Holy Spirit gave the miraculous gift to those that received it by having their hands laid on them.

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