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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain why it is written that God made all things through him and for him with no reference to the Word in those particular verses.

    You are speaking of the passage from Colossians 1 that speaks of the word that is flesh. At that time Paul is address the union that contains both the human Jesus and the word of God.

    Considering…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain why he is called “The Word of God” yet wasn’t that particular Word of God that was WITH God in the beginning (even though we are told that Jesus too was in the beginning).

    I assume you are addressing the words of a passage in Revelations that states:

    Revelation 19:13Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    13 And he was c…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain how the world was made through him yet did not recognise him when he appeared to them.

    Scripture teaches us that.

    Hebrews 11:3Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain how and why the Word was WITH God.

    Look at these poetic words of Isaiah where he speaks of the word departing from God to do their task(s).

    Isaiah 55:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    11
    so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
    it shall not return unto me void,
    but it shall accomplish that which I…

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain how and why the Word was WITH God.

    Isaiah 55:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    11
    so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
    it shall not return unto me void,
    but it shall accomplish that which I please,
    and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Scripture tells us the word is both with him…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain how and why the Word was WITH God.

    <blockquote
    Isaiah 55:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    11
    so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
    it shall not return unto me void,
    but it shall accomplish that which I please,
    and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Scripture tells us the word is…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Please explain how and why the Word was WITH God.

    Isaiah 55:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    11
    so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
    it shall not return unto me void,
    but it shall accomplish that which I please,
    and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Scripture tells us the word is both with him…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Love is with God because God is Love.

    Philo, a Jew of John’s, time taught that the Logos is the image of God.

    John’s words that the “Logos is God” paraphrases the same idea.

    Some Trinitarians admit that it means the Logos has the qualities of God but they cite those qualities that support their preconceived ideas.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Jesus is Love in the flesh and so are his fully mature student-adherents.

    As far as I know it is a mainstream teaching.

    True love in the flesh

    Christ defines true love. If Christ has not come in the flesh, if he walks two feet above the dirt and sin of life, then his love also operates two feet above the rest of humanity. In the…

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    Gene,

    Peter spoke as though he belonged to those that crucified Jesus and yet he was not one that cried that Jesus be crucified.

    Peter was a Jew speaking to other Jews about the sin of the nation.

    Never the less, even though it answered your point it is irrelevant to the idea that the Jews hearing and believing Peter’s words felt godly…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    I do not think you understand me correctly.

    Jesus came in the flesh when he was made of his mother, as is common to humanity in general.

    The word that comes from God’s mouth and by which he made the world and everything in it became flesh( aka human being) when God gave his Spirit to Jesus.

    After the word of God became flesh Jesus Christ…[Read more]

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Jesus Christ is a being as is God but the Word did not have the characteristic of existing as a being before Jesus was conceived in Mary.

    God has always been Love.

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    kerwin replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 10 years, 6 months ago

    t8,

    Okay, so the Word became flesh and Jesus came in the flesh. And they are the same, but Jesus is not the Word. Please explain.

    God is Love but God is not the same as Love.
    The Word is Jesus but he is not the same as Jesus.

    Neither Love or the Word are beings.

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    Gene,

    Hebrews 12:7-11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and…

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    Princess,

    Those that hunger and thirst for righteousness look for the God that will fill them.

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    Gene,

    Jesus instructs his hearers “repent or you to will perish” but only those that hunger and thirst for righteousness will do so.

    Godly sorrow brings a change of mind and that mindset comes from God but Christians are also instructed to put on the same mind that is in Christ Jesus.

    You know that if God is not with him the watchman watches in vain.

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    miia,

    From what is written about the many who has sexual amoral relation with his mother and the follow up letter to the Corinthians it does not appear his sin was blaspheme to the Holy Spirit.

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    miia,

    I bethink there is a premeditated aspect to deliberate sins but as I said before I am speculating for the most part.

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    miia,

    I am not sure there is such things as lesser and greater sins. I am also not sure what is a intentional sin though a lengthy premeditation such as that done by Ananias, with Sapphira may well be a sign of such. Getting caught in a weak moment on the other hand might not be. I am speculating.

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    miia,

    I am suspicious of anything Tertullian says as his doctrine is not what I hear from Scripture.

    In this case he might be correct though perhaps to limited as Hebrews 10:25-30 sounds like those that deliberately keep on sinning after they have received the Spirit have exhausted the forgiveness of God. If those words are taken literally then…[Read more]

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