Terrarica,

Nick has previous shared his understanding about Col;1;15-21 and it is a good enough understanding according to certain Jews of that era. Since you choose to reject their point of view you will be judged on that. I see no reason to go over it again.

May you have a peaceful night and wake up wiser than you go to sleep.

Terrarica,

I know you choose to be blind and I have excepted your choice.

Terrarica,

Revelation 13:7-8New English Translation (NET Bible)

7 The beast was permitted to go to war against the saints and conquer them. He was given ruling authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation, 8 and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of…

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Tonya,

Terraricca, Amen! Thank you!!! I was wondering how he got that interpretation from John 17:5 since it clearly states that Jesus had the glory with the Father before the world was. There is no way to look at that any other way than what it says.

Only in your mind.

You have to open it to let the Spirit teach you.

Not one word in…[Read more]

Terrarica,

Jesus was not slain before the beginning of the world though that was in God’s plan at that time. The version you quoted works just as good to illustrate God has had a plan since the beginning of the world.

I was using this version.

Revelation 13:8New English Translation (NET Bible)

8 and all those who live on the earth will…

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Tonya,

John 17:5 only mentions Jesus possessed glory before he came to be.

The same them basic idea resides in Revelations 13:8.

I believe you are familiar with the idea of giving awards to an individual posthumous. God knows each human being before they are in their mother’ womb and so has the ability to reward them preconception. (Jeremiah…[Read more]

Tonya,

John 17:5 is where Jesus prays to ask God to give him the glory that was already his by predestination.

Tonya,

God sits on the throne and Jesus is in the midst of the elders and the four beasts and the throne of God. That is two individuals plus a number of courtiers.

Tonya,

1) Without even looking the image that Christians are conformed to by learning to walk according to the Spirit is the Spirit image of God; who himself walks according to the Spirit. Jesus also walks according to the Spirit as you have noted.

2) He is also the first human being to both receive and walk according to the Spirit. Firstborn…[Read more]

Nick,

What is in a name?

The Spirit of Christ is not Jesus’ human spirit; rather it is the Spirit of God called by the name of Christ because he is the one God set aside as his very own.

It is associate which Jesus being given a name that is above every other name.

Terrarica,

so Jesus name was also the WORD

That is an assumption to make John’s words fit your chosen interpretation.

His titles are Faithful, True, Word of God, Christ, and many others but that does not mean you can replace those words with his name in any given passage.

John 1:1-18 use words that are vague as well as metaphysical that…[Read more]

Tonya,

Scripture declares that Jesus was conceived in Mary just as every other human being with some exception is conceived in their mother.

The exceptions are Adam, Eve, and those children conceived outside their mothers using modern technology.

Jesus insofar as his body is concerned is a decedent of King David. That in itself means his body…[Read more]

Tonya,

I have trouble reading your wording. Could you please have mercy on my weakness and make sure there is a space after paragraphs. Thank you!

Tonya,

What is the meaning of, “let US make man in OUR image”? Thanks 🙂

It is vague wording that is open to interpretation and which the unlearned and unstable wrest to their own damnation. (2 Peter 3:16-17, AV of the KJV) It is the Spirit of God that gives the true understanding of the words.

I favor the more traditional idea that God was…[Read more]

Terrarica,

No ,kerwin ,you are both wrong ,you are following your own understanding while I follow God’s and his son understanding and explanations ,

Then why don’t you think of things according to the Spirit and not according to the physical.

John 14:23English Standard Version (ESV)

23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he…

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Terrarica,

No ,kerwin ,you are both wrong ,you are following your own understanding while I follow God’s and his son understanding and explanations ,

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Then why don’t you think of things according to the Spirit and not according to the physical.

John 14:23English Standard Version (ESV)

23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me,…

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Terraricaa,

Nick is correct about looking deeper.

Terrarica,

Here is another passage that is speaking of the Spiritual and not the physical.

John 14:23English Standard Version (ESV)

23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

Terrarica,

Actually they do if you look at them with Spiritual eyes.

Matthew 12:18English Standard Version (ESV)

18
“Behold, my servant whom I have chosen,
my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased.
I will put my Spirit upon him,
and he will proclaim justice to the Gentiles.

God foretells a time when he will place his Spirit o…[Read more]

Terrarica,

Sounds right.