Quote (kejonn @ July 21 2007,07:30)Can't copy the references now, but it appears that Irenaeus believed that Wisdom is the Holy Spirit and Yeshua was the Word. I will try to post some quotes later. It appears that Justin Martyr thought Word and Wisdom were the same, and that Yeshua and the Holy Spirit were the same.Irenaeus also went on to say…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 21 2007,07:26)Quote (kejonn @ July 20 2007,19:18)N3,Yes they understood that part but you were starting to get into the biological aspects. You know sperm and egg and all that stuff . But that was the part that I was talking about. Nick is determined to prove, at least in his own mind, that Mary was the only important parent…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2007,06:38)Hi Guys, I agree that it is hard having gone through the vain repetitious prayer thing in my younger days to go back without prejudice and to examine just what we can learn from these verses.Our Father for a start shows that we are not alone and we share a relationship with Him in the body of Christ.Oh NO…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 21 2007,02:40)Ken I said to read here not to post here.Whatever MIM

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 20 2007,21:19)Ken How did I attack you.? no I am not here to attack you. I am never mad at Scripture's I wonder who is attacking whom?  I am like Pharaoh and God is using me like that?  This is really getting sad Ken, now you come on this site on purpose, I did it by mistake ,otherwise I would not be replying here.Lets see w…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ July 20 2007,23:10)Hi Nick,I think that Jesus gave us a guideline for praying. He taught us the kind of things that we should askGod for, and how we should honor God in our prayers.But as usual, man read it improperly and started reciting the Lords prayer word for word at every oportunity.Is this not “vain repitition”? Is this…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ June 08 2007,00:33)Glancing through the many topics, I have come across questions concerning the rapture, and rather then replying to the individual, I chose to post my own topic on the subject.It is obvious that the idea of a rapture is very appealing; after all, who would not want to go to heaven? Infect, I believe this kind of…[Read more]

“Ken Read Exodus 32:15 that was the Law, and I believe that was nailed on the cross. Notice the tablets were written on both sides.”I suppose MIM is saying that Moses law God wrote on the other side of the Tablets. But what does scripture say?Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 20 2007,08:19)Ken You are forgetting that we have been studying on our own for over 12 years and have grown in GODS GRACE since then. But I don't feel it right from anybody to label people.  When you tell me I don't have Gods Holy Spirit ,etc. is that not labeling.  You have been insulting me over and over again and call i…[Read more]

Quote 1 Thes. 4:17 “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”shall be caught up together with them in the clouds Doesn't this scripture say that we who are alive will be AT THE SAME TIME caught up TOGETHER with those who were dead in…

Quote But if you are going to teach that we don't have to keep the forth commandment then you can expect to be CORRECTED by Scripture.NOT ME MIM SCRIPTURE Sarcastic? I'm sorry if I came across that way but when to go against God's commandments then you go against God. All I did was point out many scriptures and tell you why you feel the way you…[Read more]

What question MIM? Why ask me anything I know nothing remember. You came out of the Catholic church which certainly does not have the Holy Spirit. Then you came out of the WWCG where the God wasn't the Pope but Herbert W Armstrong and now you want to tell me about the Spirit of God. And of ALL things LOVE! If I disagree with you and am stern I…[Read more]

Well MIM I have things to do, It's not the Sabbath you know or do you? Have a nice sabbath and day.Ken

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 20 2007,01:35)Ken  by the way, which of the scriptures I quoted do you consider to be the doctrine of men?Mrs. 2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 19 2007,12:58)Ken the post was mine  You simply don't understand the two covenant. Why should I go back to what you believe, I was there before when we belonged to the W.W.C.of God.  You never answered my question. Where do you keep the Sabbath?  I wish I could afford a maid. You don't know me or how old I am. We don't be…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ July 19 2007,11:37)Quote (kenrch @ July 17 2007,11:29)Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Wait a minute!  …[Read more]

IM4T,Quote 2007 Posted: July 18 2007,16:24 ——————————————————————————–KenThere is no remnant of the saints, woman. This church is constantly growing in spite of persecution.Satan was wroth with the woman that brought forth the man child, Jesus, Rev. 12:13, this woman was Israel; Satan went to…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 19 2007,06:49)Ken Don't put it on the back burner to long.  Lets give some more scriptures what the scribes ask JesusMark 12:29 “THE FIRST COMMANDMENT IS HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD OUR GOD THE LORD IS ONEVerse 30 'AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART,WITH ALL OF YOUR SOUL,WITH ALL OF YOUR STRENGHT    THIS IS THE FI…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 18 2007,20:39)Ken Don't jump to conclusion you are implying that I did not receive God's Holy Spirit.  Again the Labeling that I just don't like, don't judge anyone, say it with Love. You don't even know me and what God has done in our Lives for us.  Do you really believe that somebody that was in the Cath. church all t…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ July 18 2007,11:59)Ken the last sentence that you wrote was”Worship in Spirit and Truth and obey in spirit and in Truth.”Yes I agree with that completely. But do you  still  keep it physically?  That is why I ask you what Church you belong to or if you kept the Sabbath Day at your House.  I don't work anymore, so I keep every day…[Read more]