Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,08:57)Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 11 2007,12:57)Kejonn,Since all Scripture was made for teaching us truth, why don't you look and see what happened to the Israelites when they continued to sin against Elohim?We are not permitted to rewrite His laws. We are not permitted to change add to or subtract from His laws.But we, as…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,08:38)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,12:03)Kejonn do you believe that the Ten Commandments are for the Jews only?Yes and no. Who were they given to? The children of Israel. A specific and chosen race. They were not given to Gentiles. When you start justifying yourself under the Law then you have placed yourself under the…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,04:27)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,10:30)Aren't you being just a little silly in trying to keep to your idea?You misunderstand my intention here. Let me clarify so you will quite being so angry. My purpose is not to “prove” you wrong, but to show that you may not be “right”. Huh? It's like this: it seems that 75% of…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,04:27)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,10:30)Aren't you being just a little silly in trying to keep to your idea?You misunderstand my intention here. Let me clarify so you will quite being so angry. My purpose is not to “prove” you wrong, but to show that you may not be “right”. Huh? It's like this: it seems that 75% of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2007,04:02)Kenrch……> my answer to you is > suffer the little childern to come unto me, for of such are the Kingdom of God. And except you become as a little child you shall in no way inter the kingdom of God.  Ken….NO childern are not born sinners, they and you learned to sin from the world you were born into,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 10 2007,11:24)Quote David, why do you go on about human-designed and made meat grinders and cars and houses?Living things are not manufactured, and not designed, Um, I am suggesting that living things are largely designed.  That is my argument and that is what I am suggesting.  Hence, the illustrations and comparisons.  So fo…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,03:04)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,09:36)Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,02:24)Ken,You get all uptight and act like you are showing us truth in the scripture. I ask you to show me where the Sabbath is evening Friday to evening Saturday according to scripture, and you've yet to do so. All you say is “The bible is a Jewish…[Read more]

Is it the first day? No that's the Harlot's day? Well is it any of the other six days? Again NO! It is the SEVENTH day.

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,02:24)Ken,You get all uptight and act like you are showing us truth in the scripture. I ask you to show me where the Sabbath is evening Friday to evening Saturday according to scripture, and you've yet to do so. All you say is “The bible is a Jewish book” or “look at the calendar”. You practice strict legalism based…[Read more]

Mat 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Mat 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Mat 7:17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. Mat 7:18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,01:38)Ken,Just as I thought. If one can be a spiritual Jew, then one can be a spiritual Pharisee. What does IHN&L mean anyway? In His Name & Love? Well, please show me where you exhibit the Love part. I've yet to see it. All I ever see is judgment. Which is fine, it is your life after all.You break one commandment and…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 11 2007,16:49)Good discussions everyone!  Wow, this is exciting.  I've only been checking in here and there because we have so many projects going on right now at home (a remodel, my garden is expanding and kids are in sports – whew).  I have responses ready for Jodi and KJ, I just need a few moments to get them on the ri…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,00:59)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 10 2007,16:38)Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 10 2007,15:26)Ken,OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Aug. 11 2007,15:21)The Sabbath and laws and commands; are designed to bite which ever way you observe; Therefore Hang all of the Laws upon one Law of Love; whatsoever you do any day of the week is then found worthy of righteousness; how shall one hear the spirit leading him to go about his fathers business’ if he consumed with h…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 11 2007,14:04)Hi Ken:The the forth commandment is quoted for you below:Quote Deut. 5:13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:  5:14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 11 2007,12:32)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,10:00)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41)Hi Ken:I thought of one other thing relative to what you believe about the Sabbath being Saturday and Saturday only.  Saturday for some people who are in a different time zone from you is a different set of hours.  What do you say about t…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2007,03:19)to all…..I believe we are all born without sin, into a sinfull world and just like a virus infects a person so sin infected us < John said all theat's in the world, the lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh are of (FROM) the world. Remember it say's sin intered into the world and when we enter into…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 11 2007,09:59)There are 827 pages on this topic, which is pretty incredible.  I have noticed that often it is the people who deny the personage of the Holy Spirit also lack the gifts, which is a real shame.If any are interested I have tried to explain the trinity here http://www.all4god.net/trinity.htmBlessingsYou must have…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41)Hi Ken:I thought of one other thing relative to what you believe about the Sabbath being Saturday and Saturday only.  Saturday for some people who are in a different time zone from you is a different set of hours.  What do you say about this?94, You are to keep the Seventh day Sabbath. If you are in Africa and i…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 10 2007,15:26)Ken,OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No reference to the calendar. Thanks.kejonn the bible is a Jewish book. Gentiles…[Read more]