Quote (Debra @ Aug. 18 2007,19:02)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,18:48)Are all traditions bad or pagen?I thought I would “bump” this topic and see if there is any interest in discussing what other's have found to be “pagen” in nature that we accept readily as TRADITION.  I'd be interested to know sources of information claiming a tradition is…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 18 2007,14:01)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,14:37)Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 17 2007,14:27)Quote Jas 2:14  What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? Jas 2:15  If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, Jas 2:16  and one of you says to…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 18 2007,03:21)YHWH our Elohim wrote the commands He is the authour He made the rules.Y'shua Messiah obey those rules and NEVER SINNED!!!!The Pharisees were His accusers. The Pharisees were being legalistic. The Pharisees, the Pharisees, the Pharisees DID NOT WRITE THE LAW, they tried to over write it.IT WAS NOT A SIN TO PICK…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 18 2007,03:28)No I was not yelling in caps, I was emphasizing the truth.Well may you have a blessed Sabbath, I need to get going and prepare for it.Love in our Messiah Y'shua and our Father in Heaven,LaurelWell can I nuke something to eat on the Sabbath? How about take a walk is that alright? If the Spirit doesn't convict me…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,17:51)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,15:11)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,08:13)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,03:17)Birthday?  My flesh is dead. If I were to celebrate a birth- day I would celebrate my real birth-day.  The day I met the Lord Jesus Christ. Did Jesus have a “real” birthday?  He certainly did.I think to do…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 18 2007,00:56)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,14:28)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2007,12:09)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 16 2007,16:37)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 16 2007,14:03)You got it brother!  Let's do that.Father I ask in your Son's name for your truth. I ask for your forgiveness that we are sometimes stiff nicked and hard of hearing.  We no l…[Read more]

Quote (michaels @ Aug. 17 2007,15:15)hi ken the truth seems to be ,just flowing out of you,but dont wory about what men think only what the father thinks,for if they are ofended in you when you speak truth,they are ofended in the father who is the TRUTH. may jesus lead you in all TRUTH. boldness to speak the truth is from the father,for even…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,15:11)Ken,I can see you are a hard nut. That is OK, we are all unique. But the messenger is supposed to pass on the message, not make comments when the message is not accepted. So if you call yourself a messenger, pass on the message alone and not extra comments that turn people away.For instance, if you believe the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 17 2007,08:13)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 17 2007,03:17)Birthday?  My flesh is dead. If I were to celebrate a birth- day I would celebrate my real birth-day.  The day I met the Lord Jesus Christ. Did Jesus have a “real” birthday?  He certainly did.I think to downplay our birthdays is to not give God thanks for giving us life.Are yo…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,14:40)Ken,Yes, I believe that the message is correct. I just think you do need to work on the method of delivery so you can be more like Yahshua. Study John 4 for more details.I can understand your statement of not being a “smooth talker”. But is that a holdover from the “old man”? The “new man” must continue to be put…[Read more]

Quote …one of helping meet a need, which is not required under the ten commandmentsThe last six commandments show how to love thy neighbor as thyself.What does 1 John 5:3 speaking of ST?

Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 17 2007,14:27)Quote Jas 2:14  What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? Jas 2:15  If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, Jas 2:16  and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give th…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 17 2007,12:09)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 16 2007,16:37)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 16 2007,14:03)You got it brother!  Let's do that.Father I ask in your Son's name for your truth. I ask for your forgiveness that we are sometimes stiff nicked and hard of hearing.  We no longer want to be two on your word but one as your Son prayed.  Help us…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,13:54)Ken,I don't think you are pointing the finger at me. I too want to please God. There are so many things I took for granted in 20+ years. For some time lately I had been unhappy because I was missing something, and now that I have shed myself of the Trinity doctrine, I have really been desiring to see more ways to…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,06:34)Ken,So, in your opinion, do you think that is what James was speaking of when he mentioned “works”? That is, to be certain that the 10 Commandments were observed? I wonder why he was not more specific. Oh, and I'm fairly certain that “works” could also include carrying out what Yahshua taught as well.I think then…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,03:37)Ken,I think that one has to recognize that Paul was writing to Gentiles who had very little understanding of the Law. So I wonder if he was speaking of the Law of Moses (sacrificial and ceremonial) or if he was trying to include all of the Law? That is why it is so great that we have all of the NT so we can bring…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 17 2007,03:03)Hi all,Perhaps not so much a “debate” then, but more of a clarification for those who may have been taking Paul's writings to an extreme. But then again, what does James mean by “works”?Compare the two:Faith without works is dead.Love for God is dead not keeping His commandments.Truth is truth if you follow the…[Read more]

Birthday? My flesh is dead. If I were to celebrate a birth- day I would celebrate my real birth-day. The day I met the Lord Jesus Christ.

Satan has sent his babies who out right attack your spirit with prone trash. t8 this is an annoyance is there no way to block such trash!

Quote (seekingtruth @ Aug. 16 2007,17:05)Paul discussed Faith & Law, while James discussed Faith & works. I believe what Paul was emphasizing is that salvation is not a result of following the Law but is through faith, while James was emphasizing that genuine faith will always produce “works”. I see no disagreement just different…[Read more]