Quote (k4c @ Dec. 10 2005,20:47)Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 09 2005,13:33)Jesus was Michael. That is ridiculous. You take one verse out of Daniel and build a whole doctrine around it, because someone told you it was true. Please mean read the Bible, and leave those little books alone. The scripture says without the Word nothing was made that was made. If…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 10 2005,19:45)Right Sultan, and I agree with that.  “….YOU will not be a part of the kingdom UNLESS YOU'RE BORN AGAIN.”  But what  does it mean to be a part of that kingdom?  What purpose do those who make up this kingdom serve?  What is the purpose of this kingdom?  You're right, the issue was not the definiton of what the k…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 10 2005,00:54)Hi Kenrch.Are any of your other workmates (those with or without a religion) interested in your religious beliefs?Some are some aren't my JWs friend is very interested. I 'm not out to please anyone but the Father. If anyone is saved it's because of the Father and not me. Some plant, some feed,and some will…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 09 2005,20:12)Quote (Ramblinrose @ Dec. 09 2005,19:52)KenrchAnother way to render that verse is as follows:Rev 3:14  ‘And to the messenger of the assembly of the Laodiceans write: These things saith the Amen, the witness—the faithful and true—the chief (746) of the creation of God;(YLT – Youngs Literal Transl…[Read more]

Quote (Ramblinrose @ Dec. 09 2005,19:52)KenrchAnother way to render that verse is as follows:Rev 3:14  ‘And to the messenger of the assembly of the Laodiceans write: These things saith the Amen, the witness—the faithful and true—the chief (746) of the creation of God;(YLT – Youngs Literal Translation).Strongs Greek Lexicon:746. arch arche ar-kha…[Read more]

Quote (Ramblinrose @ Dec. 09 2005,18:29)Who is the word?Genesis 1:1  In the beginning GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH…..3  And GOD SAID, Let there be light: and there was light……God spoke and the world was created.  By the word of God are all things made.God is the word. YHWH God alone is the creator.Deut 18:18-19  I will raise them up a Prop…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2005,22:03)Hi kenrch, Good stuff.Who was Jesus Christ?Was he only in existence from his conception?Was he only like us, flesh with the breath of God?Mary was his mother but who was his father?If his Father was God Himself does that not make him possibly different?If so then who CAME IN the flesh? If Christ did not…[Read more]

Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 09 2005,15:38)David,I think the scripture is plain. You must be born again.     “3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's w…[Read more]

Quote (Woutlaw @ Dec. 09 2005,14:45)kenrch,I don't know about The Church of the First Born. I did some research and are you referring to the General Assembly? I think there is a difference. I'm having a hard time getting doctrinal statements from any of the Church of the First Born sites i've visited. If you have any sites you recommend please let…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2005,14:08)Hi bastion, Jn 10.2f” But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the doorkeeper opens and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he puts forth all his own he goes ahead of them and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. A…[Read more]

Quote (Sultan @ Dec. 08 2005,09:10)Greetings,   My name is Sultan and this is my first post. I have enjoyed all of you guys input, and look foward to helping clarify the person of Christ from the Bible, and not man's opinion.   I am writing a book on the subject of “The Logos”. I feel it is the missing link to understanding Christ. Let me give y…[Read more]

Quote (Bastian @ Dec. 06 2005,10:00)Kenrch,A very good and valid point I might add. David said in an earlier post that he sees a lot of disagreement about our beliefs. I answered him by giving an example of Paul, and Peter and how the Holy Spirit worked in their lives. God is not doing a new thing today. However, I do see the Holy Spirit at work…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2005,22:41)Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2005,22:38)Quote (dattaswami @ June 06 2005,00:50)CREATION OF LIFE (GOD – SCIENTIST)When the energy, which is another form of matter, only does a special function, that special function or special mechanism or special technology is called as life. Thus, life is the special work of e…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2005,22:38)Quote (dattaswami @ June 06 2005,00:50)CREATION OF LIFE (GOD – SCIENTIST)When the energy, which is another form of matter, only does a special function, that special function or special mechanism or special technology is called as life. Thus, life is the special work of energy. The scientist is unable to make t…[Read more]

Quote (dattaswami @ June 06 2005,00:50)CREATION OF LIFE (GOD – SCIENTIST)When the energy, which is another form of matter, only does a special function, that special function or special mechanism or special technology is called as life. Thus, life is the special work of energy. The scientist is unable to make the energy to do this special work. T…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 05 2005,17:25)Quote Where is the consistency here? The difference is with the trinity, there are a hundred clear verses that disprove the trinity for every vague verse that they twist.With Jesus/Michael, there are admittedly few verses that touch on the subject.  But they all point in one direction and there aren't any verses…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 05 2005,20:05)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2005,15:26)Hi kenrch, If you have been reborn into Christ by water and the Spirit that is the first step. You have been clothed with Christ. Gal 3.27″For all of you who were baptised in to Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ”But that is only the easy part.Now Christ must be…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2005,15:26)Hi kenrch, If you have been reborn into Christ by water and the Spirit that is the first step. You have been clothed with Christ. Gal 3.27″For all of you who were baptised in to Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ”But that is only the easy part.Now Christ must be born into us.Gal 4.19″ My children,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2005,23:11)Hi kenrch, I would say that, like Adam you have always been a spirit being since the breath of God was blown into him. For you cannot live without spirit.Gen 2.7″Then the Lord God …breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being”Jas 2.26″For just as the body without the spirit…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2005,19:21)Hi kenrch, Rev 20.13″Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small standing before the throne, and books were opened and another book was opened, which is the book of life;…[Read more]