Quote (t8 @ Sep. 23 2006,04:18)kenrch you have accused Nick of things in these forums and I take it that you didn't go through the process that you are saying Nick failed in. According to your own preaching and actions I think you should apologise, but I am not going to force you to as you are trying to with Nick.Anyway, I thought you were going…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,18:22)Yes Kenrch let it rest please. Thanks.So….1) Let others decide for themselves regarding the way Nick exposed the PM.2) Let others also decide for themselves they way Kenrch  condemned Nick publicly and didn't go through the procedure that he said Nick should have gone through.So back to the real issue:Where/what…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,18:00)Sorry Kenrch but he didn't break the commands of Jesus.Where does Jesus say you cannot expose a PM?It doesn't.Your interpretation regarding the lack of witnesses (that you broke yourself) should be subject to the church. So far from what I can see, only H agrees with you, but that means nothing as he is the one who…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ Sep. 22 2006,17:41)Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 20 2006,21:31)Quote (Cubes @ Sep. 19 2006,22:09)Hi Kenrch,Regarding Nick's sharing of the PM sent to him, I think in this case Nick was right to share it for the following reasons (and please don't think I am taking sides.  I consider both H & Nick as my brothers and friends):1.  The content o…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,17:30)To kenrch.Personally speaking I think that you and H are not here to do good, but to cause division. I disagree with your reasoning and condemnation of another member with no proof.I will only judge when proof is given of a sin.Mishandling is not a sin, and I do not even think it was mishandled.I think that you have…[Read more]

You are going to do what YOU want so I see no point in continuing but you and Nick have shown me who you follow and it is not scripture or the Holy Spirit if you followed the Holy Spirit you would back scripture. It's just that simple.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,17:19)I don't consider it a sin, but you inevitiably do.So you should adhere to your own rules.That is the sin. Doing that which you consider as sin.Your latest accusation is that Nick didn't rebuke H by himself, (even though you have no proof that he didn't). You then say that there should have been witnesses, even though…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,17:09)Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2006,11:56)Quote (Mercy @ Sep. 22 2006,16:54)Kenrch,The thing is T8 is not the only one who sees this as being unprofitable.  Without any evidence we can't do anything about it.I have posted several scriptures myself that I think really strike at this matter with force. Why are we even having…[Read more]

Quote (Mercy @ Sep. 22 2006,16:54)Kenrch,The thing is T8 is not the only one who sees this as being unprofitable.  Without any evidence we can't do anything about it.I have posted several scriptures myself that I think really strike at this matter with force. Why are we even having this discussion if H can't produce 2 or 3 witnesses (whether…[Read more]

Look weather H was wrong or not doesn't matter because Nick did not follow the Lord's cammands. Nick should apologize. I believe h already has, hasn't he!

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,16:06)To kenrch.Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2006,10:30)1) Mat 18:15  Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault “BETWEEN THEE AND HIM ALONE”: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.This is a command of our Lord!  This should have been between Nick and H alone.  Did Nick fo…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,15:22)Anyone who tries to replace Christ is antichrist.Jesus was and is the head of the church.The Pope is not the head of the church, he is the head of the Roman Catholics.As scripture states many times, it is better to be led by God, not man.The Pope is head of the Roman Universal (catholic) Church. There is nothing…[Read more]

This was brought up by a catholic on this forum I can't remember his name but he pointed out to me that the city is Jersalem because the city sits on seven (7) mountians.Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.Rome sits on hills and not mountians. Someone said that the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,14:32)Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 22 2006,19:59)2Ti 2:25  In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; “if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;” (GNB)  who is gentle as you correct your opponents, for it may be that God will give them the opportunity to repent and come to know t…[Read more]

2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; “if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;” (GNB) who is gentle as you correct your opponents, for it may be that God will give them the opportunity to repent and come to know the truth. 2Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2006,22:07)Thanks guys, Finished yet or perhaps a few more lashes? Won't apologize! Then tell me why you don't believe you have too! If you can! Just can't apologize can you!  Too full of pride!  Just as I have said from the beginning.  I won't show you pity but I will continue to pray for yo…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2006,22:04)Hi kenrch, You have yet to be appointed a judge so wait about.Scripture judges you Nick! Mat. 18:15-17

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 21 2006,22:01)Hi kenrch, It is a funny thing but we are all so blind that what we judge others for is usually one of our own problems.This is you answer to scripture? Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast…[Read more]

Quote (Cubes @ Sep. 20 2006,18:25)Hi Ken,My attempt to say much would result in speculating about things I know nothing of, and perhaps adding fuel to fire.  We are to settle disagreements in the manner you described, but what of actual threats or perceived threats?Cubes,I believe Matt. 18:15-17 cover threats too. All Nick had to do was speak to…[Read more]

Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between “THEE AND HIM” ALONE: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee ONE OR TWO MORE, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. Mat 18:17 And if he…[Read more]