Huh. Got any books where Satan says he's coming to turn family members against one another? If Jesus said some of the things attributed to him, he had a high disdain for family. There are many instances where you see he didn't care for birth family.

After all, why would they not be enemies since Jesus came to turn family members agains one another.

Mat 10:34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. Mat 10:35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Mat 10:36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Indeed. So much for…[Read more]

That was Jesus speaking. Are you saying Jesus was God then? When did you come to accept the trinity?

No doubt, just as good as Luk 14:26 “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

Can you provide strong evidence that christianity has a monopoly on passionate love?

Better yet, read some of the recent posts about some guy with the initials RW and you will see what an unhealthy obsession with the bible will do for you.

Keep the philosophy coming! Who said I was looking for a following? I am not leader.

I did fine ONE instance where the OT claims God loves His people (the Israelites).Deu 23:5 “Nevertheless, the LORD your God was not willing to listen to Balaam, but the LORD your God turned the curse into a blessing for you because the LORD your God loves you.

I can't understand why people don't realize why Jews don't accept Jesus and Christians tend to stay away from the OT. Two different Gods are described in the the books. The God described in the OT was a tribal God who was bloodthirsty and reveled in death and destruction, while the God in the NT was a background character represented by Jesus. The…[Read more]

Jealous that I am not a disciple of Nick? Again, you just go after my character rather than addressing what I pointed out. What about the list of cruelties I pointed out just from Genesis? All you had to say was that it was the faithful record of the actions of bible God. Seriously, if you enjoy reading the savage actions of that God, then perhaps…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,22:21)Hi KJ,The Bible faithfully records the works of our God. So refer your criticism of God to Him not us.I can't go to bible God because He is not real. I can speak to his believers though because they believe bible God is their God and accept that He was a bloodthirsty God who all of a sudden became a God of love.

Some examples of the “loving kindness” of the bible God in Genesis. (1) God is pleased when Abel kills an animal but displeased with Cain for vegetables. No reason is given but the bible God does love killing animals. The result? Cain kills Abel.(2) Bible God makes imperfect man and tires of him so he kills everyone except Noah and his family. He…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,20:50)Hi KJ, We are not meant to have a philosophical viewpoint of God but rather to know His loving kindness day by day.How's this for “loving kindness'? Excerpts from Angry God, angry people At the more sec­u­lar Dutch school, the re­sults were sur­pris­ing­ly sim­i­lar, the sci­en­tists said. Al­though…[Read more]

Haha, sure Nick, think what you want. If it makes you sleep better tonight thinking I hate God, so be it. Perhaps you'll stop and think what the bible has done for the image of God and change your approach. If someone gives me an opinion of you that is not accurate, does that actually change who you are? By the same token, the bible just gives a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,20:20)Hi KJ,You cannot hear from us.You cannot listen to the Word of God.If someone rose from the dead would you listen?Sure. But it hasn't happened outside of the bible (or some other texts) so I may have to wait awhile.Basically you are just saying you have no insight Nick. Thus I can see that belief in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,20:12)Hi KJ, Your insults resound against the God Who can give you answers.Curious here. If YOU are a child of God, why can't you give me the answers. You must be out of tune with God. How then are you you closer to Him than me if you have no answers?

**sigh** Still empty philosophy and baseless warnings Nick. Your superstition drives you to the edge.

Gen 1:2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. What “form” do you suppose the spirit was in? A dove again?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,19:53)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 21 2008,12:26)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2008,19:24)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 21 2008,09:21)If God is spirit, how did Adam and Eve hear Him walking in the garden? The initial view of God according to the bible was very human it seems.Hi KJ,God is invisibleGod is spirit.Does God have…[Read more]