But you fail to also see that they were looking for their “messiah”, not the Jewish one. Yet Jesus was plopped onto the Hebrew scriptures instead. Odd you don't see the irony in this.

I'm sorry but the bible is greater than no man. It is a book. You seem to be an idol worshiper Nick. You worship a book men have written that gives their view of God. You do know that idol worship is a “sin” too?

So I can go out and rape a virgin just as long as I pay her dad 50 shekels of silever and then marry her? I think I'll pass. You go ahead.

I don't think Mandy (or I) is looking for “full knowledge”. However, we wouldn't mind knowledge that does not contradict of conflict. Let me ask you Nick, do you truly think the real God would tell someone that it was OK to rape a virgin as long as she was not engaged, pay the father a sum of money to make up for the crime, then force the woman to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2008,13:38)Hi cato, No true doctrine.Many humanistic religions are of this nature.True doctrine is drawn directly from the teachings of God in the bible.Well, you can either have a humanistic religion (like you think Zoroastrianism is) or you can have a religion that reduces God to human level (like Christianity is).…[Read more]

deisres = desires.

Au contraire, Nick. My faith is in God, your faith is in a book written by men who viewed God after their own nature, deisres, and bias.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2008,13:38)Hi cato, No true doctrine.Many humanistic religions are of this nature.True doctrine is drawn directly from the teachings of God in the bible.Men teach that they can save themselves.God teaches that it is impossible to do so.Yes, if we are to believe the Hewbrew and Greek bible, then we must accept that God…[Read more]

Since i cannot post in the other RW thread, I'd be curious if the PKG folks adhere to all 613 Mitzvot of the Torah. If not, they are not saved? For instance, do you all adhere to the specifics of these commandments?Deu 22:13 “If any man takes a wife and goes in to her and then turns against her, Deu 22:14 and charges her with shameful deeds and…[Read more]

Cato,Not much of Zarathushtra's original teachings influenced Christianity. Like any other religion, others came afterwards and continued to add to the religion. Before Zarathushtra came on the scene, the Persians worshiped a pantheon of gods, like many people of that time period. If you look closely enough, those who came before Moses were…[Read more]

Here's an interesting read: Field Guide: End Times Prophecy Movement

Mrs,That is why I came back and said it was not limited to Catholicism. When I went to find it, several Catholic pages showed up and I made a perhaps false correlation. I guess it comes from my limited experience with Catholicism and knowing they are big on pre-made prayers.

It seems non-believers aren't allowed to edit (we must not be trusted it seems) so you can find more about the “Serenity Prayer” here.

But not limited to Catholicism, obviously .

Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 24 2008,00:45)Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 24 2008,15:56)Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 24 2008,15:01)I am still somewhat upset about my Girlfriend. I do wish She would start believing in Christ again, if that is possible. According to scripture it is not so.Irene,I'm sorry to have upset you, as you know I care…[Read more]

One last note here for the time: when May 2008 rolls around and the predictions do not come true, it may be time to realize something other than “Satan” misleading people. Rather, has anyone ever thought that all of this is taking place because the real God wants you to sit up, take notice, and stop letting rigid observances ruin your lives and…[Read more]

For others who may be influenced by the recent PKG folks, take a moment to check this site out first: http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008….g-glass

While we're at it, lets advertise other books by other doomsday prophets. Why not download and read Prophecy Fulfilled: God's Hand in World Affairs. After all, it is written by another disciple of Armstrong. These guys seems to have a fetish for firing people up to see the world end very soon.

In the Ron Weinland thread, discipleelohim saidQuote However, I will not in May. From the information I have been given, by February 1st of 2009. “If” we have a new President in office I will do the above mentioned.Uh, you DO know that we WILL have a new president by Feb 2009, correct? This is not prophecy, this is part of the governmental process…[Read more]

I another thread, discipleelohim saidQuote I can't focus at my job, I can't have normal relationships with my friends, my family thinks I am nuts. The only ones who understand me are those who have been drawn by God. Can behavior such as this be honorable to God?