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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Nick,It is nice to see that your closemindedness traps vague ideas and forbids the use of the intelligence God gave you.I do hope you continue to ignore the barbaric God of the Holy Bible.

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    You can read a book, I can read another. Who determines which book is the most valid?

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,16:12)Hi KJ, Have you not heard God speak through Jesus and the prophets?No and neither have you. Just like the “poetry” above you just read the words of others.Quote Have you not felt the guiding wind of the Spirit each day?Would that be the same spirit that leads millions to believe differently about the same…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Ah, but how doe God reply to you? What proof do you have that says what you believe is any more valid? Could others not say you are as equally as gullible? Your words are empty reasoning, based upon your own beliefs Nick. They hold no strength as similar words can be repeated by any other. A JW can say them, a Mormon can mimic them, a Buddhist can…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Nick,Do tell me how Christianity can make similar claims. By words taken from scripture? I'm sure if I knew the other texts, I could provide similar “proof”. But here are some passages from the Gathas if you require such “proof”.Y31.2 – Tell me, O Mazda – That which Thou shalt bestow by Thy Spirit and Fire,The blessing Thou shalt assign through…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,14:19)Hi Kj, All religions are indeed similar except one. Christianity does not worship an idol, an icon of an imaginary god. All others have to start from square one and try to develop a theory of a god and how to worship him.Christianity has a basis of truths revealed by the only true God.It bridges the gap…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Excerpts from http://www.zoroastrianism.cc/discussions_4.htmlYahweh is the name given to 'their' god by the Jews. Originally, Yahweh is NOT the God of the World, but the god of the Jews. Genesis 1 speaks of Elohim creating the Earth – Elohim means gods. It was not until Isaiah, a prophet of the Jewish Exile, that Yahweh acquires Universality. That…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,13:52)Hi KJ, So the older the religion the truer? So all subsequent religions are just ideas that evolved from them? That seems a sad basis for any sort of useful belief. Better to accept the written truth of God.No, because Hinduism is older than Judaism! It is perhaps the oldest religion existing today. Yet some…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Uh, and since all of these preceded Christianity, it would be rather difficult to called Zoroastrianism “reflections, echoes and shadows”. Rather, those terms would be more correctly applied to Christianity.

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,12:52)Hi KJ, Fascinating reflections, echoes and shadows…. perhaps to some. But we are not interested in being seduced by such illusions.No one is trying to “seduce” you, just perhaps get you to realize that God may not have given all of His “truth” to Jews. You seem to think that the God who created it all…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Are you a father Nick? If so, tell me some reasons why you wanted to have children. Did you have them so they would worship you? Did you have them so you could have little versions of you that would obey you blindly? Would you call any of that truly love?

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Excerpts from Zoroastrianism & ChristianityThe wise men, or Magi, from the east, came not only to see the Messiah of the Jews, but the possible World Redeemer (Saoshyant) of Zoroastrianism. Ironically, the Magi came to see the center of Christendom their own theology had created.While Ahriman corrupted the creation of Ahura Mazda, it is Ahura…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    From http://www.zoroastrianism.cc/discussions_10.html# 40) Q: What does Zoroastianism have to do with Christians?Demon possession, a Persian belief, is everywhere. The Jews do not even speak Hebrew any more, but Aramaic, the very language the Persians used as a common language for all their Empire. The Synagogue, had come into existence as local…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Cato @ Feb. 26 2008,06:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,06:38)Hi cato, No true doctrine.Many humanistic religions are of this nature.True doctrine is drawn directly from the teachings of God in the bible.Men teach that they can save themselves.God teaches that it is impossible to do so.How is this humanistic? Zarathustra/Zoroaster…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    tents = tenets :;):

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Another thing people don't realize is that there are still many in Iran who hold to Zoroastrianism AND Islam. What that means is that Islam was forced on people across the middle east about 1300 years ago, yet the tents of Zoroastrianism are still existent. Zoroastrianism is NOT a religion of terror in any fashion. The three G's still hold: good…[Read more]

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    In the “Believers” RW thread, Broncs saidQuote There seems to be an awful lot of discussion here about who or what group are really “God's Chosen People”, and I have to say after belonging to a “traditional” Christian church for 30 years and believing in a “loving” God who says “come as you are” and “saves you” if you believe in him, that I have…[Read more]

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    Irony upon irony. Its odd to see the “believers” arguing who is the true believer. Makes you wonder why the bible was so ambiguous if it was really the true “word of God”. I guess God is ambiguous?

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Cato, if you want a good site to find out much of the original teachings of Zarathushtra, check out ZOROASTRIANISM, the Religion of Mankind Restored.. If you would like to find out some ideas of the later developments of Zoroastrianism and how it may have influenced Judaism & Christianity, check out http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS….mic.htmand http:…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Zoroaster in the forum Faith 16 years, 9 months ago

    Quite simple really. Are any Jewish people called “magi”? No, but Persian “holy men” were called that. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MagiLater they accepted the Zoroastrian religion, not without changing the original message of its founder, Zarathustra (Zoroaster), to what is today known as Zurvanism, which would become the predominant form of…[Read more]

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