As I stated in another place, you can pick up hints throughout the synoptic Gospels (not John, it is another work altogether and foreign to any Judaic roots) that Jesus did indeed believe that he was the Messiah to come. Part of the reason that his behavior was not as a military leader was because there were likely severla interpretations of the…[Read more]

Again, to turn this thread back around, its important to realize that the form of Zoroastrianism that potentially influenced Judaism to a small extent and Christianity to a much larger extent, was post-Gathas. There is very little found within the Gathas to lead to any of the present Christian theology about afterlife, hell, heaven, demons, Satan,…[Read more]

Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 27 2008,11:40)Kejonn,Sorry for misusing your thread here.  I believe our conversation is over anyway.  Nick will not guide me nor will he give me an answer for what he believes.  He will only try to instill fear, accuse me of throwing a fit, and finally cast me aside as an antichrist.Nice.Not my thread, Cato started it . Be…[Read more]

I guess I was not the only one to pick up on the “antichrist” thread posted in the believers section. Your ploy is transparent, and might I add, deplorable, Nick. Rather than help her with answers, you turn to the tactic of fear-mongering with certain scriptural passages. In the process, you don't realize that you may be turning Mandy further away…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2008,00:03)“Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, . . . for he shot up right forth as a sapling, and as a root out of a dry ground . . . He was despised, and forsaken of men, a man of pains, and acquainted with disease, and as one from whom men hide their face: He was despised, and we e…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2008,23:02)Quote (Cato @ Feb. 26 2008,23:58)Stuart,”So you are saying that Zeus was considered to be a god and now is not because people stopped believing he was, but that the Judeo-christian god really is there because people believe he is?”This was not my point (though it may have some validity psychologically).No my point…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ Feb. 26 2008,06:58)Stuart,”So you are saying that Zeus was considered to be a god and now is not because people stopped believing he was, but that the Judeo-christian god really is there because people believe he is?”This was not my point (though it may have some validity psychologically).No my point was that Zeus was discarded…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,02:36)Hi Mandy, Why do you expect it to be written in your terms?Because she wants to believe but there is a huge piece missing?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,01:49)As a gentile you have no backup plan.Quit using that old fear tactic.

Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 27 2008,00:26)Quote Of course, all will know the second time. We know there must be a second time, because all will not know some other time.A second coming for the promised Messiah is a huge thing to assume (Of course, all will know the second time – you say). David, it is not written!Quote ISAIAH 8:14-15“And he must b…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2008,00:03)“Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, . . . for he shot up right forth as a sapling, and as a root out of a dry ground . . . He was despised, and forsaken of men, a man of pains, and acquainted with disease, and as one from whom men hide their face: He was despised, and we e…[Read more]

I also would not advocate what Zoroastrianism had become after Zarathushtra. It is indeed very similar to Christianity, so why swap one for the other? Christianity is much like Zoroastrianism in that those who came after its founder added to the original message. It is highly likely that those who came after Jesus added much to his original…[Read more]

Cato,You just don't understand Nick. To him, anything outside of the 66 books of the Holy Bible is untrue, everything found within IS true. Like God enjoying the smell of meat cooking on the altar. I think it was actually the priest who enjoyed the smell because he knew it was dinner time.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,02:42)Hi Mandy, If you agree with the Pharisees that Jesus is not the Messiah are you going to join them in picking up stones to kill him? If you decide he lied and was not the true Messiah will you also begin to teach against him? Whom would that please?Nick,At the risk of further taking this thread more off…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,01:02)Hi Mandy, You cannot see it at this stage of your searching.You must see it all at once which is a bit sadYour knowledge means little in the long term.And based on this answer, you don't have an answer. Quit beating around the bush and just tell her “I don't know, I just believe”.

Broncs453 saidQuote Water -There is something that you fail to pick up on, and it is very important. You are automatically assuming that “terrorism” means coming from a foreign country. Terrorism can come from within one's own country, just like 9/11. I have listened to Ron very carefully, to see if he ever states that 9/11 was caused by…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2008,15:31)Hi KJ, So some poetic human prayers to a false god impress you?Where does the imaginary god reply? You are so gullible.Just curious though: what makes you think Ahura Mazda is “false”? From Cyrus Charter of Human RightsThe charter of Cyrus the Great, a baked-clay Aryan language (Old Persian) cuneiform…[Read more]

If Mr. Weinland is the “primary spokesman” for both witnesses, why do we need the second witness? Revelation saysRev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.I ave seen some hints that Ron dropped clues about the 2nd witness being his wife. How very…[Read more]

Odd that t8 brings Yisrayl Hawkins up. Guess who Mr. Hawkings had ties to? You guessed it, the originator of many of the doomsday prophets, the Worldwide Church of God! From http://www.livingcog.com/237offshoots.htmThis list includes addresses of 237 churches, fellowships, study groups, publications and service-providing organizations that trace a…[Read more]

In another thread, someone else posted Heb 10:31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Just another example of the bible God using fear and intimidation. The fear and intimidation approach used to be prevalent in companies but they soon realized it was not effective. More and more people are realizing it is not…[Read more]