In response to Christianity having thousands of sects in another thread, Nick Hassan saidQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,17:46)Hi KJ, Then you do not understand the body of Christ. Christ is not divided.1 Corinthians 1:13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? The Spirit is not divided.1…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,17:43)Hi KJ, Yep. Become as a child.Lobotomy, constant intoxication, or narcotics? Which shall I use to reduce me to a child-like mentality?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,17:42)Hi KJ, NoKnowledge must be infused with wisdom to be grasped. Wisdom takes time and grace. Impatient treatment of the sacred writings leads to shallow knowledge, which is a stumbling stone. 2Peter314Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace,…[Read more]

Since we got off-topic (again) on another thread, I move this response here: Nick Hassan saidQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:59)Hi KJ,To be of faith is not to be of great intellect or deep understanding.Those things would seem to be more of a hindrance than a help.This verse was of great help to me when I started the journey.Prov3 5Trust in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:40)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 18 2008,09:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:12)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 18 2008,08:29)No Nick, you do not understand. Each person has his/her own view of God. Some use the bible to describe Him, some use another religious text. But even when people use the same book, they form their…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:26)Hi KJ, No I think partial knowledge applies to all things including OT and NT.These pathetic eyes and our limited brain abilities blind us to so much outside our view. More study often just leads to more ignorance and as you say awareness of things that are beyond our ken.If more study leads to more…[Read more]

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 17 2008,16:30)kejonn Those that have been Baptiszed and have received the Holy Spirit are united in the same Spirit with Jesus Christ and our Heavenly Father. You have unfortunetley have doubt and have gone astray, and that is unfortunate for you. No matter what you will say, those that are groanded in Christ…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:27)Hi KJ, The Word is truth. Do you think we should look elsewhere?Again, you failed to answer my question. I notice you do that when you have no answer OR you don't like the answer. So you divert.Go back to the bible. Then see the thousands of different denominations that have arisen from the same bible.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,16:12)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 18 2008,08:29)No Nick, you do not understand. Each person has his/her own view of God. Some use the bible to describe Him, some use another religious text. But even when people use the same book, they form their own view beyond that. I think you know that.Hi KJ, It is far harder to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,15:59)Hi KJ, Why do you always look at the obstacles to finding truth?Seek and you will find.Again, you failed to answer my question. I notice you do that when you have no answer OR you don't like the answer. So you divert.Go back to the bible. Then see the thousands of different denominations that have arisen…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,15:02)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 18 2008,07:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,12:56)Hi KJ, Did you think you needed all knowledge before you could accept truth?What you fail to understand here is I accepted things as truth prior to getting knowledge, and then the knowledge I gained showed that many of the things I…[Read more]

Again, you failed to answer my question. I notice you do that when you have no answer OR you don't like the answer. So you divert. Go back to the bible. Then see the thousands of different denominations that have arisen from the same bible.

Which one is correct Nick, yours?

No Nick, you do not understand. Each person has his/her own view of God. Some use the bible to describe Him, some use another religious text. But even when people use the same book, they form their own view beyond that. I think you know that.

Quote (Cato @ Mar. 17 2008,06:06)Stuart,You have a point, however I don't feel any of the Hindu deities match up to my view of a supreme unmanifest creator. Though I must admit that my identification with what I view God as the Judeo-Christian God may be prejudice from my upbringing. I do have many problems with how the OT describes God (see my…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,13:20)Hi KJ,When the voice spoke to Jesus from the heavens would you have been among those who heard just thunder? Jn1228Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. 29The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,12:56)Hi KJ, Did you think you needed all knowledge before you could accept truth?What you fail to understand here is I accepted things as truth prior to getting knowledge, and then the knowledge I gained showed that many of the things I thought were truth could no longer be accepted as such.

Cato,I agree. What the shame of it all is that one of the moderators is the one who usually helps to move the thread off-topic. I suppose he feels his job as moderator is to lead people away from risky subjects?The idea of “salvation” in the bible is inequitable. As you stated, many may never hear the gospel message, and many who do will hear a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2008,22:54)Hi KJ,No attack.But this is a thread for seekers of truthIf you have no interest in searching anymore why would you remain in this thread?Because you said people are seeking the truth. You're “truth” requires that one must have “blind faith” and ignore the many prophecies Jesus never even came close to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 16 2008,22:24)Hi KJ, If that is all you want to find then this thread will no longer interest you.This thread IS about proving Jesus is the Messiah, right? Then you should be listing such evidence, not just attacking those who question.