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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    “one less plague” should be “one last plague”

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2008,04:30)Hi Stu, “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do”Forgive them for they are just the pawns of God? You can believe God manipulates people so that they end up being persecuted and killed for hundreds of years afterwards, but that's not a view of God I care for. Its the same view of God presented in…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,23:40)Hi KJ, Jesus has always been surrounded by contention. Some even killed him because of his claims. We should not join those enemies of God. He is LordJesus was killed for being an insurrectionist. He claimed a kingdom. Plus, he became a troublemaker in the temple. It had nothing to do with a sacrifice, as…[Read more]

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    Some may think his irritation is with those who he thinks is “insulting God”, but I think he may be irritated because he can rarely ever address what is actually in our posts.

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    Quote (Cato @ Mar. 19 2008,05:38)Nick,Do you think what is portrayed as God's plan is fair, especially considering the ultimate ends awaiting our short and vastly different lives? I know you think it is God's, but can you comment on the plan itself. Have you no pity for those poor souls born in the dominion of Islam where their chances of being…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2008,00:53)Hi KJ, Belief in the bible is what we offer. A foundation for faith.It is what the Lord wants. Lk6 46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48He is like a man which built an…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 18 2008,19:27)Quote The Jews looked for a deliverer and they never got one. Exactly right. They looked for a deliverer. Someone to save them from the yoke of Rome. Someone to give them triumph and power. And they were expecting him to come just around the time Jesus arrived. But THAT PERSON never showed. Yet, the messiah…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 18 2008,19:21)Yes, I don't doubt that there were many false messiahs around the time of Jesus. Perhaps that is because they were in expectation of the messiah around that time, and hence were seeing them everywhere. There seem to be more messiahs around this time, I think, because this is around the time he was expected, as…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,19:20)Hi KJ, You have attacked the integrity of the OT. So why would you be interested in the details?I was communicating with David, not the “great thread diverter”.

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    So that's how you witness? Sad.

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    So how do unbelievers learn of the biblical God? Not from you?

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    Using the OT and NT, show me the similarities between “God the Father” and “Yahweh”.

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 18 2008,18:56)If they were expecting the messiah right around the time Jesus arrived, I wonder what would get in the way for them recognizing Jesus?Oh, that's right–false expectations.While rightly understanding that messiah was to arrive, they were out of line with why he was to arrive. Of course, they were out of line with…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Jewish “Messiahs” in and around the 1st century: Alexander the Great Judas son of Hezekiah (Ezekias) (c. 4 BCE) Simon (c. 4 BCE) Athronges (c. 4-2? BCE) Jesus Theudas (44-46) in the Roman province of Judea Menahem ben Judah partook in a revolt against Agrippa II in Judea Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135), defeated in the Second Jewish-Roman War

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 18 2008,18:37)Quote But as usual, you avoided the last post. I said the OT speaks of a messianic era. That era has not come. Hi Kejonn. I don't know why and I'm not sure exactly what it's based on,, but yes, they did believe in a messianic era. And they seem to believe for whatever reason that it would begin around the time…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,18:19)Hi KJ, God makes sure all righteousness is satisfied.How so? Psalm 40 says God does not desire sacrifices. The NT says that Jesus died as a sacrifice. These two beliefs are in opposition.This does not therefore fulfill any form of righteousness. It just tries to make Jesus' death into something besides the…[Read more]

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    No, but it would be interesting to know if you believe your truth is more truth than the next Christian's truth.

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,18:03)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 19 2008,10:52)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,14:51)Hi,Ps 40 6Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. 7Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me, 8I delight to do…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic Jesus IS the MESSIAH in the forum Faith 16 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,18:01)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 19 2008,10:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2008,13:03)Hi KJ, Did you stumble over the stumbling stone as well? You do have a standard list of responses. I've seen this one several times before and it never seems to have any effect. BTW, God willingly threw a stumbling stone in our way? Qu…[Read more]

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    What do you call your belief system Nick? Since it does not match any other Christian's 100%, we'll never know who has the truth.

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