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    As opposed to your path, which results in addressing issues with empy platitudes?

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    Nick,As usual you are saying God = bible. The bible is the record of a certain people and the retelling of many of their legends. That includes the NT as the authors of the gospels wrote 40-70 years after Jesus. So they were just telling the legend of Jesus. Often, legends are embellished as you know.As to the OT, when archeology shows much of the…[Read more]

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    A personal reviewer on that page says (it can be found in the book too)There is good reason to believe that the Exodus never happened. Had migrants to the number of even a small fraction of the 600,000 claimed in the Bible truly sojourned in the Sinai Peninsula for 40 years, archaeological evidence of their passage would be abundant. In fact,…[Read more]

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    No more than I cannot prove Harry Potter is real if someone believes in it. If lack of evidence beyond something in a book can equal reality we are free to believe in anything as long as someone is willing to write about it.If you are open-minded, pick this book up: The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Samuel @ Mar. 28 2008,09:05)The Bible is it wrong?It has not been proven to be wrong yet.Do you mean as a whole, or certain parts? With each archeological find, it beceomes apparent that certain stories in the OT are incorrect. Not wrong necessarily in all parts, but likely highly embellished.For instance, there is no singular bit of…[Read more]

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    kejonn replied to the topic AntiChrist is here in the forum Faith 16 years, 7 months ago

    Cato, That matches something I read by a blogger recently. I liked it. Here it is from http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/483. Ironwolf said:Or, here’s a scary thought: what if the return of Jesus is really a symbolic, spiritual concept, and the “soon” God is speaking of is the end of your mortal life, and the time of your testi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2008,02:31)Hi Mrs, We are still waiting for the technology to be developedthat allows everyone to talk and nobody to listen.I thought we already had that.

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 28 2008,04:06)Kejonn how do you distinguish between the truth and lies in scripture?I don't anymore. So much of it is in doubt in my mind because of the view of Gd presented therein that it has become a fascinating view into the mindset of a historical people to me rather than anything I could view as literal truth. I am…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 27 2008,22:52)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 28 2008,15:03)Real knowledge will show that –according to the Hebrew OT — Jesus could not be the promised Messiah. Real knowledge will show that God saw human sacrifice as evil. Real knowledge will show that no one can pay for the sins of another.Real knowledge would shatter faith in false…[Read more]

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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 27 2008,22:52)Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 28 2008,15:03)Real knowledge will show that –according to the Hebrew OT — Jesus could not be the promised Messiah. Real knowledge will show that God saw human sacrifice as evil. Real knowledge will show that no one can pay for the sins of another.Real knowledge would shatter faith in false…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,22:33)Hi KJ, Do you alone have this key to real UNDERSTANDING?No, it seems 2/3 of the people on this planet have grasped similar ideas :laugh:.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2008,03:09)Hi Stu, You divert. At this stage KJ believes Jesus existed. He is inconvinced of the fact that he is the Jewish messiah.I'll agree with that :;):. In what way he existed is not clear, and what words he actually said cannot be verified, but yes I believe in a historical Jesus.

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    Here are my assumptions based on the A&E story:(1) God said all he created was good, and overall very good. That included then the serpent, so A&E had no reason to suspect that the serpent was “evil” or “bad”.(2) Since A&E did not know “evil” only “good”, they had no concept of wrong and right. While they were told not to do something, without a…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 27 2008,23:13)Quote In other words, we choose what suits our desires. You have no valid case to prove the reality of scripture, I have no proof of the fallacy of scripture. Stalemate.But a stalemate hurts your case much more than mine. Think hard and long about that.Not really. It hurts your case. YOU chose these things to…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,22:31)Hi KJ, You are dealing with God's children. They are a people of real hope and not humanist despair. You should not contaminate their food with negativity and doubt.How do you know your hope is real? You place your hope in something that no one has ever been able to verify. Since I have shed much of my…[Read more]

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    Quote (Samuel @ Mar. 27 2008,17:38)It is appointed unto man once to die…Yep.Quote Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:No matter what man thinks…boy we can sure think up some stuff. Science will not save him. In fact before the end men will beg for death, and it will flee them. Revelation…[Read more]

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    Am I seeking righteousness? That is an Abrahamic goal, one that says “look at me”. I am just trying to bring people back to reality so that they can contribute to the world they live in, not just wait on some world they might get to live in.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2008,14:52)Hi cato, Faith must come before knowledge.2Peter 1 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Mar. 27 2008,20:38)Quote So when the bible God makes mistakes, to retain faith in His “perfection” we must always apply such logic to His failings.KEJONN, What logic? What scripture says God always uses his ability to know the future? Again, your assumptions. So He turns it on and off, so that you may claim as much when He goofs…[Read more]

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