Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,13:23)Quote (Cato @ Mar. 31 2008,23:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,07:28)Hi cato, So God must submit to the logical moral reasonings of men?Then your god is not our God.Why would anyone try to fit our God into their ignorant moral framework?No, God does not submit to anything, but our understanding of such…[Read more]

Another potentially influential work for the OT was the Code of Hammurabi. This code was a set of laws composed by Hammurabi who lived around 1800 BCE. Moses was supposed to have lived around 1300 BCE. If you read the Code, which is available in several places on the Web (http://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/221ham.html is one), you will…[Read more]

From Ancient History Sourcebook: The Legend of Sargon of Akkadê, c. 2300 BCE:1. Sargon, the mighty king, king of Akkadê am I,2. My mother was lowly; my father I did not know;3. The brother of my father dwelt in the mountain.4. My city is Azupiranu, which is situated on the bank of the Purattu ,5. My lowly mother conceived me, in secret she b…[Read more]

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Quote (kejonn @ Mar. 31 2008,06:37)Quote (Cato @ Mar. 31 2008,06:34)No, God does not submit to anything, but our understanding of such should. I worship a God that is the Creator of the entire universe, all-knowing and all-powerful, one who loves all his creation. The laws of nature are ordered and logical, they show us more of the true nature…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ Mar. 31 2008,06:34)No, God does not submit to anything, but our understanding of such should. I worship a God that is the Creator of the entire universe, all-knowing and all-powerful, one who loves all his creation. The laws of nature are ordered and logical, they show us more of the true nature of the Creator then a collection of…[Read more]

Some don't even reach the dead-end in reasoning or logic. Supposedly we are not to use our God-given intellect.

I thought this was as good as any thread since it brings up the OT.There are many clues out there and several scholars who believe that the first 5 books of the bible were written either during the Babylonian exile or slightly before. Whatever the case, there may be some other evidence that certain stories were influenced from the Babylonians (and…[Read more]

Oops, didn't see her response above .

Quote (seek and you will find @ Mar. 30 2008,22:31)I want to bring this up again fpr Mandy. I have not seen Her post for a few days and my Husband did not know that, that is why He posted the article on Jesus, which I belief is really good ansd it might help Mandy, I hopePeace and Love IreneI think she has under her old username, Not3in1.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2008,20:13)Hi Stu, Is there a theory of Devolution?I think we see evidence of that every day as the thin veneer of civilisation wears off. Men are returning to the animalistic roots you claim they have.Should we be on the lookout for more stooping and treeclimbing behaviours again?Actually, as much as fundamentalists…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2008,14:28)Hi cato, So God must submit to the logical moral reasonings of men?Then your god is not our God.Why would anyone try to fit our God into their ignorant moral framework?How ironic that you just perfectly described the bible. It indeed is an attempt to fit God into ancient Hebrew men's ignorant moral framework.

Quote (Samuel @ Mar. 30 2008,17:00)You know I'm sure that GOD could come down here and explain everything to every…but….Chances are you would not even believe he was GOD, and you would not want to even listen to him.Perhaps you are right, because everyone has their own view of God. What if He doesn't match up to the expectations of Him given…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2008,16:37)Hi KJ, Who gives life?Job 33:4″The Spirit of God has made me,And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.Acts 17:25nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things;1 Timothy 6:13I charge you in the presence of God, who gives…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Mar. 30 2008,16:24)Thats what man does…We judge everything…some men even like to judge their own creator, such as we see here.This is where you and Nick and some others get it dead wrong. Well, maybe not as far as Stu is concerned, but I don't question my Creator, I just question the view of Him in the bible. A fundamentalist…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2008,14:55)Hi Kj, I cannot believe there are folk who would take the bible and it's revelations about Godand then arrogantly try to apply moral judgements drawn from those writingsagainst the extraordinarily awesome God revealed there.It begs commonsense.But I CAN believe that you will never answer any questions. Why…[Read more]

So, I'm curious Nick: why is abortion wrong? If you say the one who gives life can take it away, then the same logic dictates that a woman can abort because she gave life to the fetus.Of course, I believe all life is precious and that abortion is wrong. Then again, I don't agree that God killing wantonly just because a biased ancient tome said…

There's one of those I knew felt this way .

Here was my favorite response. I can imagine one or two on here making similar responses:The question you did not ask was; Is God justified in killing these people.If God is who He says He is, then He is justified in all that He does. He is the ultimate standard for what is just and unjust.He can kill who He pleases and is righteous in doing it.

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 30 2008,04:43)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2008,17:29)Hi cato,We do not consider the question of sin in relationship to our Holy God. We just absorb what he says about Himself without putting it through our pathetic moral filter.Did god give you a pathetic moral filter so he could get away with murdering millions of us?StuartThe…[Read more]