Quote (david @ April 16 2008,01:50)Quote This is utterly appalling. Quote Deu 28:53 The siege will be so severe that you will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters, whom the LORD your God has given you.Deu 28:54 The most tenderhearted man among you will have no compassion for his own brother, his beloved wife, and his surviving…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 15 2008,19:04)May GOd forgive me if anything that I said should turn a single soul away from God.I believe in God. I love my God. My God loves His creation.My God is love. Love could do none of those things said of God in the bible.Therefore, the bible must be mistaken.TimI agree Tim. People here mistake my intentions. I…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:47)Quote Huh? As you know it is? Why is what you know any more valid than what Joe Blow knows?Rigid fundamentalism has resulted in many deaths. Should that be overlooked?–kejonnApparently not, and yet, the gathas say to “let each person choose his creed.”Perhaps the gathas overlooked this or mazda wasn't very far…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:47)Quote Huh? As you know it is? Why is what you know any more valid than what Joe Blow knows?Rigid fundamentalism has resulted in many deaths. Should that be overlooked?–kejonnApparently not, and yet, the gathas say to “let each person choose his creed.”Perhaps the gathas overlooked this or mazda wasn't very far…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 15 2008,19:45)He had access to many of the books, although not in the nice leather bound edition that we have.Jesus was a diplomat. He wanted to show us what God was really like without coming right out and saying that the scriptures were lies.How long would he have been able to teach anything if that had been His tact.Who…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 15 2008,19:38)But the OT was not completely written when Jesus was walking the earth. Which books did they have?Depends. If you speak of what we know as the OT, those books were written hundreds of years before Jesus. There was something like 400 years in between the OT and Jesus. At least 300. The Apocrypha is a different story.

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:33)Quote I am not hanging out on here, just waiting to answer your questions. Your level of impatience shows you don't have one particular fruit…–kejonn.Kejonn, I simply asked you: Will your god let us destroy ourself? Does he care about people? Will he step in, ever?There is no evidence we are destroying…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:30)Quote Look the dates up anywhere. I can see why you backtrack.If you have some sort of point to make, why don't you just make it. Are you saying that secular sources do not match up date wise with the Bible?Bingo.

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:29)Quote What makes you think Yahweh will step in? There is zdero evidence of him stepping in yet.And I see no evidence of the sun coming up tomorrow. Except that it has always faithfully done so.What does that have to do with Jehovah or Ahura Mazda?Quote Unlike mazda, Jehovah promises to step in, and therefore at…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 15 2008,19:27)Quote Jehovah hates himself? Surely killing over 2 million people is not an act of kindness or benevolence.Quote I see nothing in there that would keep a Christian from watching UFC. Violence for the sake of violence or violence for the sake of entertainment is obviously different than the execution of the…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ April 15 2008,19:28)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2008,09:50)Hi not3, Better to remember the voice of the shepherd and entrust yourself yourself to his loving Father. The merchants of doubt and misery do not own you.Hi Nick,With that I agree. Jesus came to show us what the father was really like. He was nothing like the one…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2008,17:04)Hi KJ,It is not my business to judge God.Why would you think you were righteous enough to attempt such a task?No righteousness needed. Just a sense of common morality and decency.

Quote (seek and you will find @ April 15 2008,17:14)kejonn! If the Abomination of Desolation happened during the Babylonian time, why would Jesus bring it up again.Mrs.Mrs! Even Christian apologists say the AoD happened before Jesus' time. They also say there will be another, but that seems to be speculation thus…[Read more]

I don't envy anyone who can take the OT as a viable viewpoint of God. Scary.

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 15 2008,16:44)Quote (TimothyVI @ April 16 2008,06:44)Quote (Not3in1 @ April 16 2008,05:15)Tim,This scene with Joshua -is it biblical?Oh, God, I hope not!I can't take much more of this.Does anyone know a good Buddism site? Yes Mandy, unfortunately it is biblical.All you have to do is read through exodus, Numbers and Judges…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2008,16:55)Hi not3, You would use the revelation of God against Him? Is that wise?Revelation of God? Have you checked out Deu 28? 14verses on the blessings of obedience, but 50 more on the curses of disobedience. Some pretty mind-numbing and nauseating things Yahweh promises the disobedient.

This is utterly appalling. Deu 28:45  “If you refuse to listen to the LORD your God and to obey the commands and laws he has given you, all these curses will pursue and overtake you until you are destroyed.Deu 28:46  These horrors will serve as a sign and warning among you and your descendants forever.Deu 28:47  Because you have not served the LO…[Read more]

Hey, its the evidence that atheists are looking for!

History IS history. Now can we establish that the bible is history? No…God IS God. But can we establish that Yahweh is the appropriate representation of God? I certainly hope not…

Yeah, the ones where over 2 million people are slaughtered by Yahweh, where he sanctions laws where rape is OK in some instances, not pooping in the camp so Yahweh won't step in it, etc.