Quote (Cato @ April 22 2008,13:30)WJ,You question Kevin and my views of God based on the premise that a God who doesn't step in to save us in case of mortal injury or damage is not really benign (your why doesn't he stop the rape example).  Yes this seems uncaring, yet that is the price of having free will, the ability to make mistakes, if God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2008,10:30)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,21:38)I understand you WJ. But let me ask you — and be truthful — what if the acts attributed to God in the OT were not present there but they were in the Koran, what would you say about Allah?KejonnIf I am honest with myself, I would still have to ask the same…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 22 2008,06:58)Quote The Pharaseeis or their spies followed Jesus around and were present on a number of occasions. Some were saved as they tried to intrap him in theological nonsence yet his gental answers made converts of them as well. Only one for sure: Nicodemus. Any others would be speculation. And please refrain from ten…[Read more]

Christians, read the following: http://www.truthdig.com/images/diguploads/verses.htmlNow see if you can make excuses for the Koran. It is not that much different than the bible.

I pray that God gives you serenity and peace.

Quote (david @ April 22 2008,00:57)Those kids that were mocking God's prophet, the children that died in the flood, the children that died in the past, if they had any trace of a good heart, I can only imagine Jehovah will resurrect them in the “resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous.“Is that what it comes down to, imagining? Where are…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 22 2008,00:51)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,10:24)kejonn,I'm very concerned for you, the story you've relayed above distorts the scripture. In scripture those who have done good works are granted entrance into the Kingdom. Even if they do not accept Jesus once presented with the gospel? And what would you say if I feel…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2008,00:30)Quote When my children disobey I do not slaughter them or deny them my presence forever. –mandyAnd what of those who actually want to serve him Mandy? Are they to live with such things forever? Must there be badness and suffering at the hands of the wicked forever?Eventually, Mandy, do you not think it right…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 22 2008,00:26)Quote After all, the bible says that hell was made for “satan” and his evil spirit pals. Where does the Bible say this Kejonn?Pardon, the lake of fire. But there is no difference in the final result, the bible says people will be cast in the lake of fire.Mat 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ April 22 2008,00:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2008,17:48)But if God is all loving and all powerful and all knowing, and he is the creator of this universe and he can stop a little child from being raped and murdered and hacked to pieces and doesn’t, then that God is no less evil than the God that you criticize in the OT w…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 22 2008,00:48)KejonnWow, are we getting defensive.You didn’t answer the question my friend.I am not trying to attack your God. I am being sincere, with a sincere question.Let me see if I can give you another scenario.Lets say you have a 5-year-old daughter.You happen to walk in on your 19 year old Son raping your d…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 21 2008,20:40)Interesting. I didn't know this. I just assumed the word translated children was ye′ledhBut it is not. It is: na′‛ar. The usual Hebrew term for a boy or young man is na′‛ar. (Ge 19:4; Jg 8:20) GENESIS 19:4“Before they could lie down, the men of the city, the men of Sod′om, surrounded the house, from boy to o…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 21 2008,20:30)I think part of the thing is that we're not considering that Elisha is God's official representative here.Put the Messiah in Elisha's place for example. Picture a child going up to him and spitting on him as he's carrying his stake to his death. That child might as well never been born. “Oh, it's only a child.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 21 2008,20:12)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,12:32)Quote (942767 @ April 21 2008,19:22)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,11:59)Quote (942767 @ April 21 2008,18:46)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,11:36)I apologize to those with weak stomachs .Yes, and I believe that you need to appologize to God. Again, as you seem to do…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 21 2008,21:28)kejonn,I'm very concerned for you, the story you've relayed above distorts the scripture. In scripture those who have done good works are granted entrance into the Kingdom. Even if they do not accept Jesus once presented with the gospel? And what would you say if I feel concern for those stuck in…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 21 2008,19:22)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,11:59)Quote (942767 @ April 21 2008,18:46)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,11:36)I apologize to those with weak stomachs .Yes, and I believe that you need to appologize to God. Again, as you seem to do quite regularly, you jump to conclusions without seeking God or doing some…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 21 2008,18:46)Quote (kejonn @ April 22 2008,11:36)I apologize to those with weak stomachs .Yes, and I believe that you need to appologize to God. Again, as you seem to do quite regularly, you jump to conclusions without seeking God or doing some research on what is being said. You thought that the scripture stated that God…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ April 21 2008,16:05)KJ,This argument about Jesus not loving the Jewsih authorities is looking more and more like a straw man. You say that you don't resent Jesus but spend a lot of efforet trying to make him look bad. But again, can we truly know Jesus through the bible? It doesn't seem to be enough for you, so you tack the UB view…[Read more]

I apologize to those with weak stomachs .

Where's the eye-rolling smiley when you need it? Seriously, that was not the best cover-up job I've seen 94. Perhaps it makes you feel better about the passage — that your God would not do this — but it is what it is.You listed the Blue Letter Lexicon of the word “baqa” and it pretty much means cleaving or ripping open. So if they lived, they…[Read more]