Quote (Theologian-and-Apologist @ July 16 2008,15:59)Inner feeling and such is not the only place for truth, but truth is where the truth is.I do not think a book is the only way to find evidence, but rather looking at evidence is how you find truth.According to all the evidence, Christianity is firm and all other grounds are blind faiths. Yes…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 16 2008,14:13)Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2008,23:58)What is a personal relationship? Think about it. In a personal relationship, people communicate with one another. You can do that with God, IMHO, but what you get back is much more vague than what you would get from your fellow human.There is so much more available in real…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 16 2008,10:36)Quote (kejonn @ July 17 2008,00:05)IOW, see my tagline. In case it changes: “We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” — Jonathan SwiftHi kevinI agree man made religion stinks. However that doesnt negate real life experiences of love from God and to him…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 16 2008,09:26)Quote (kejonn @ July 17 2008,00:04)What if I find it to be sad that people place their hope in something that has no evidence of being real outside of a book? Does my sorrow count? What if I find it to be sad that so many shun potential relationships with good people out there because they don't agree…[Read more]

IOW, see my tagline. In case it changes: “We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.” — Jonathan Swift

What if I find it to be sad that people place their hope in something that has no evidence of being real outside of a book? Does my sorrow count? What if I find it to be sad that so many shun potential relationships with good people out there because they don't agree that Jesus is the savior of the world? I know, I missed out on many potential…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 16 2008,00:58)Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2008,09:55)What makes you so certain that the God you met was indeed the God of the bible? Did He tell you?Because that God I met as a very small child also talks to me through the bible.Question – didn't you come to God through J e s u s, a character in the bible?So, does God speak to…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 16 2008,00:49)Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2008,13:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 15 2008,18:15)Kevin,I'm running the kids to football and cheer practice, but I will respond later tonight. I enjoy your view, although I don't believe you are any more happy or “free” by adopting your new understanding than you were when you believed in…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 16 2008,00:11)Quote (kejonn @ July 15 2008,13:22)The answer? I cannot justify it, it is based on belief alone. Nothing more or nothing less than any theist I suppose. But I am very open to allow my beliefs to evolve as science or reason shows them to be valid or faulty.A large chunk of our DNA is the same as a daffodil.So men are…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 16 2008,00:03)Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2008,09:32)But how are your moral absolutes different from your neighbor who may be a Buddhist? You say you are getting them from your god, but what if another claims the same god yet has a different set of absolutes?There are no moral absolutes. While it is wrong to kill, it may end…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 15 2008,18:15)Kevin,I'm running the kids to football and cheer practice, but I will respond later tonight. I enjoy your view, although I don't believe you are any more happy or “free” by adopting your new understanding than you were when you believed in the Yahweh of the bible. So if believing and searching out religion is…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 15 2008,06:32)Quote (kejonn @ July 15 2008,11:32)Just because you believe one way or other does not make it true/false .That is correct. If you don't believe in God, it doesn't mean that he doesn't exist. If you believe that God is a nasty being, then that doesn't make it so too. Or you can believe He is NOT a nasty being, and…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 15 2008,16:05)kejonn, since your mind is made up, why are you here? Looking for converts? Proselytizing?Because I believe that the view of Christianity — that so many people will be doomed to hell for failing to believe in something that really has no supportable evidence — is detrimental. Because too often people use…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 15 2008,16:04)Hi Kevin,After reading your post I think the thread that I chose for us to debate in (after moving my post from the Trivia thread), the “Losing Faith” thread is more appropriate. You've lost faith in God altogether. Even a God you will find that suits you will have one heck of a time convincing you of much, if…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 15 2008,16:04)Hi Kevin,After reading your post I think the thread that I chose for us to debate in (after moving my post from the Trivia thread), the “Losing Faith” thread is more appropriate. You've lost faith in God altogether. Even a God you will find that suits you will have one heck of a time convincing you of much, if…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 15 2008,16:03)Quote (kejonn @ July 15 2008,20:09)Quote (epistemaniac @ July 15 2008,01:56)On what grounds can the atheist call anything evil? Culture? personal preference? The thing is, the atheist has no answer to the problem of evil that is in the least satisfactory. There is a problem of evil, yes, but EVERYONE has to…[Read more]

Mandy,Missed this and the later comment in the trivia thread, answered here.

Opps, missed it, added response here.

Since the “Bible Trivia” thread is not a debate thread, I will answer Not3in1's post in here.Quote (Not3in1 @ July 15 2008,15:22)Quote (kejonn @ July 14 2008,23:44)See, an atheist guessing knows the true nature of Yahweh. Sure, take whatever points you like .1Sa 6:19 He struck down some of the men of Beth-shemesh because they had looked into the…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ July 15 2008,01:56)On what grounds can the atheist call anything evil? Culture? personal preference? The thing is, the atheist has no answer to the problem of evil that is in the least satisfactory. There is a problem of evil, yes, but EVERYONE has to answer it, not just the Christian.blessings,KenOn what grounds can a…[Read more]