Nick,Favor please? Could you use something to separate what you quoted from your response? Its hard to figure out where you start .

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,14:13)Hi kj,Belief alone does not save demons or men.There are many things written in scripture about the sovereign saving powers of God. If anyone gives us a cup of water because we belong to Christ they will receive salvation in the great white throne judgement after the second resurrection. But our hope is the…[Read more]

Nick,Another gospel? Nah. Have you missed what verse 9-10 say? These are not my words brother, they are in the Bible. If you accuse anyone of another gospel than you better start with Paul. Let's take a look-see at confession of Jesus then, shall we?

Matthew 10:32 – “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My…

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BTW, “Lucifer” does not even appear in most modern translations.Peace!

Nick,I was merely telling WJ my understanding of the Trinity doctrine. I was not supporting it. Not to be mean, but I can see why you have so many posts on here — you seem to “jump the gun” and not check out what posts are all about. Love ya brother!

Nick, BTW, you DO seem to have some issues with context. You try to run all the way back to Romans 1 to see who the book is for but fail to read the first few verses of chapter 10! Paul was teaching the Roman believers some lessons to pass on to unbelievers!

Romans 10:1-3 – Brethren, my heart's desire and my prayer to God for them is for their…

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,11:35)Hi kj, From another thread”Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,10:37) Hi 94,Of course there is no salvation in scripture by confession of Jesus as Lord. Off topic on this one, but are you sure Nick?Romans 10:9-10 – that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised…[Read more]

Is it “Study to show thyself approved” or “study to find all the loopholes”?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2007,18:40)KTell you what, You show us where Jesus said he “was not God” and we will show you were he said he was.Oh and by the way the rule is you have to do it in light of John 1:1 and John 20:28, and Heb 1:8.Also it has to be “Unambiguous” and not grey. Also maybe you could grace us with your scriptural “Proof”…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ July 04 2007,14:11)The correct translation of Matt.25:41 is: …Go from me, you cursed, into the fire eonian, made ready… Eonian is NOT everlasting.Correct to who? Why take the view of a few translators over the view of hundreds?BTW, your bible also uses Enoian in John 3:16. Better than this short earthly lifetime, but who…[Read more]

WJ,I understand the Trinity as much as any other. That is to say, not much. There are so many different views of the Trinity that one just has to wonder why it even exists since it is so misunderstood even by those who think they have a grasp of it.Here is what I know: The God of the Trinity is God who reveals Himself as God the Father, God the…[Read more]

WJ,Most perhaps. I must admit that they make a far stretch with this whole “Babylon” thing. I'm not the slightest bit convinced and I wish they would stop mentioning it. To me it is another “fear” tactic; that is, if you believe in the Trinity you have something to do with this whole “Babylon” thing. I'm going to need more evidence than heavy…[Read more]

Hey WJ,1st Commandment: You shall have no other gods before Me. A triune God is not a God that monotheistic Jews or Muslims would know. Therefore, they would reject a triune God as being another God. And as far as equating Lord with God, are you speaking of “Lord” or “LORD” who is Yahweh?I'm confused by this statement: “Non-Trinitarians dont…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2007,10:37)Hi 94, Of course there is no salvation in scripture by confession of Jesus as Lord.Off topic on this one, but are you sure Nick?

Romans 10:9-10 – that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person…

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CO,Just for the sake of curiosity, do you no longer lie? Have all lusts fled from you? Do you sometimes say hurtful things to others? Or have you become perfect? I'm not trying to mock you, but trying to figure out wherer you think this repentence does or doesn't belong. Are you speaking of after you accept the free gift of God, or before?I cannot…[Read more]

Hi WJ,Its just an aggravation though . Sometimes I use IE and it doesn't have spell check like Firefox or Seamonkey (funny name for a browser!). Anyway, I don't want it to change my posts after a response, but just when I see mistakes. Oh well, I can learn to live with it.I'm used to Simple Machines, so much more user friendly IMO!Carry…[Read more]

Hi CO,Quote (chosenone @ July 04 2007,16:18)My answer to the post I originated.    Christ has died and was ressurrected by God the third day. What did He die for?  Our sins of course!  He was sinless, He took on the sins of the world, all humanity, you and I, and paid our penalty (the wages of sin is death) that we deserved.  He suffered a very…[Read more]

ACC,People must not recognize absurdity. It would be absurd to assert that belief in the Trinity was essential for our salvation, because Jesus did not impart such a requirement to those who heard him. He knows exactly who he is, and he knows his relationship to God. And he knew what he came for. And never once did he say something like “This is…[Read more]

Hi again WJ,Sorry to post again but I admit I stopped reading you response after the first few lines. And when do I get ability to edit my posts so I don't have post twice if I need to add? Eh…Anyway, I've never said the Trinity is false, that it is a whore, or any such thing. I admit that I am leaning towards denying its scriptural validity,…[Read more]

Hi WJ,Haha . The challenge was issued already, not the other way around. There are millions of people who have walked the earth who never claimed to be God…I suppose then that they are part of the Trinity too?Did Jesus ever say he wasn't a woman? I guess he might have been a woman then. Did Jesus say he wasn't a homosexual? I guess he may have…[Read more]