Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 10 2007,02:15)KejonnYou said…Quote Not only that, one of the reasons you likely don't see this any part of this verse quoted in the NT is that most of the writers of the NT used the Septuagint and not the Masoretic. Lets see how the Septuagint has Isaiah 9:6Yes kejonn but the writers of the NT also called Jesus…[Read more]

Ken,OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No reference to the calendar. Thanks.

Ken,OK, thanks.

Steve,MIM used to believe in the trinity. Her and her husband no longer do, but they have grown children who do. If I also recall correctly, MIM used to be members of a Catholic church.

So the 1st day is evening on  Saturday to evening on Sunday? Can this be shown in scripture, or was it a tradition developed among the Jews?

Ken,Oh, and BTW, you took the Matthew verses out of context. Those verses speak of false prophets, not those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb.

Ken,I can see from your various posts that you hold the Law above grace. Perhaps I am wrong, but it is what I sense. True grace and the knowledge of it in our lives actually leads to obedience to the Law. But can you prove that the manuscript used for the KJV is the correct one? I think you assume so, but there are several places I can show you…[Read more]

How does this verse work then?Jhn 10:36 do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 09 2007,09:50)kejonnI dont have much time but thought I would at least respond to your desperate attempt to make Isa 9:6 say something that it does not.No I'm not. I'm merely trying to relate it to other scripture. Show me where outside this verse that Yeshua is called “Mighty God”. The way prophecy is fulfilled is…[Read more]

To all (and certainly michaels),I think the reason so many people get hung up over obedience to the Law and over what Paul taught was because they do not truly understand the the very concise summation of Yeshua's mission and the Law itself. Here it is:

Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”Mat 22:37 And He said to…

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MIM,Amen. Once you start doubting one part of scripture, Satan works himself unto you. After all, he doesn't tell you anything, he just says things to make you doubt.

Gen 3:4 The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!Gen 3:5 “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,…

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Michaels,Opinion is not proof. Show me where Paul opposed Jesus in his teachings. That is the evidence I require.

michaels,I said I was not going to respond to you anymore, but I can't stand you constantly putting down certain parts of scripture. Please provide concrete evidence that Paul was an apostate and not an apostle.

Has anyone here heard of Hasidic Gentiles, or the Noachide Laws? Just curious…but from what I recall, one of the requirements of Hasidic Gentiles is that they NOT keep the Sabbath. That is, the Sabbath was to be obeyed by the Jews alone. I will try to find a reference.Not saying this is valid, just recalling something I saw.

To all,I've played around with this notion before, and I threw it out in front of folks too. But I want to do so again because it just makes too much sense in light of scripture: I think the the logos of John 1 is the Holy Spirit. The first time I thought this was because of Job 33:4:Job 33:4 “The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the…[Read more]

Quote (Laurel @ Aug. 08 2007,13:16)Ken,The numbers are when I copy and paste from the KJV. Program installed on my computer. I would have to manually delete all of them. I will if time allows. Sorry about that.Laurel,Are you using e-sword? The default Bible is KJV+ with Strong's numbers. You can download free copies of many other translations from…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 08 2007,01:19)No it dosnt make two Gods. Again, the Word/God who is and was Spirit came in the flesh without diminishing his diety. Phil 2.The “Word” the Eternal life that was with the Father from everlasting, Yeshua, who is and was Spirit can not change.For if he was the express representation of his substance, Heb…[Read more]

Steve,CB really stands for “Cluster Bomb”. That is, he just “cluster bombs” us with verses and then expects as to suddenly start believing as he does. Hey, I have a Bible too.

Quote (Mr. Steve @ Aug. 08 2007,12:46)WJ;You don't believe that the Son of God existed before coming to earth so explain how Christ turns over the Kingdom to the One who sent him?  How can one be sent if he does not exist?  Mr. SteveWas that meant for me or WJ? WJ believes Yeshua has eternally existed with the Father as God.And I also believe t…[Read more]

WJ,I don't know about the “Lord means God” scenario for the early fathers. Do you have a reference? I will say that I do believe that the early fathers used the Septuagint though, and the best I can tell, YHWH did not make it over into the Septuagint. I think then YHWH was replaced with “Lord” in the Greek OT. Can you then imagine the confusion…[Read more]