Hey Ken,What does Yeshua mean by “these commandments” in Mat 5:19? Look in the context of the chapter…

Another interesting passage from John that was written directly in opposition to the Gnostics:

Joh 20:30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; Joh 20:31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in…

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Mrs.,Indeed! Check these out (from the ESV)

Rom 4:1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? Rom 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.”…

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Hey Ken,Basically the same as before: Abraham did everything YHWH commanded him to do. What you see in Gen 26:5 is not “the Law” but ordinances given to Abraham to follow. According to blueletter.org,

1) law, direction, instruction a) instruction, direction (human or divine) 1) body of prophetic teaching 2) instruction in…

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Did Abraham have the Ten Commandments? It is certain that the 10 were part of the Law, so what does this mean?

Rom 5:13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a…

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Thanks Ken,I am just glad I am not under the Law, but rather under the blood of Christ. Since I was not raised to observe the Law, I wouldn't know where to begin.

Thanks Gene and MrsIM. Are the Ten Commandments the only ones mentioned?

Num 10:12 and the sons of Israel set out on their journeys from the wilderness of Sinai. Then the cloud settled down in the wilderness of Paran. Num 10:13 So they moved out for the first time according to the commandment of the LORD through Moses.

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Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 23 2007,11:11)kejonn,Do you agree the Ten Commandments were written by God and placed inside the ark?Deu 10:4 And he wrote on the tablets, in the same writing as before, the Ten Commandments that the LORD had spoken to you on the mountain out of the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly. And the LORD gave them to me.…[Read more]

Kenrch,You are hung up on the word “commandment”. I think when you see it, you automatically think of the 10 Commandments. But here is something for you:Exo 34:28 So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.Note here…[Read more]

OK, let's simplify this. What is a commandment? Besides the obvious 10, a commandment according to answers.com is “A command; an edict.” this is supported in the different way the following is translated (1 Sam 15:11)

(ESV) “I regret that I have made Saul king, for he has turned back from following me and has not performed my commandments.” And…

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Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 20 2007,19:44)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 21 2007,12:24)Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 20 2007,19:00)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 21 2007,02:57)People often assume that when they see the word “commandments” in the New Testament, that it means the 10 commandments. But how certain can we be on this?What about this when God spoke to Isaac:

Gen 26:4 “I…

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Quote (IM4Truth @ Sep. 22 2007,08:29)There are not many people that have shown me that they have Love in their Hearts for me. I have ask for a Prayer for my Family for today and nobody has responded. I have been feeling so bad for my Grandson that it has made me sick to my stomach. While I am sitting here my Husband is taking the Family Dog from…[Read more]

Here is something related to a study I am doing on John 1. From Wikipedia

Cerinthus (c 100) was an early Christian originator of a heretical sect, a “heresiarch” in the view of the Church Fathers. Contrary to proto-orthodox Christianity, Cerinthus's school followed the Jewish law, denied that the Supreme God had made the physical world, and denied…

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Mandy,If you do get back in to check this, thanks for the compliments and encouragement. I pray all goes well with you in your time away from the board. And while with us as well .Love God – Love People,Kevin

Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 20 2007,19:00)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 21 2007,02:57)People often assume that when they see the word “commandments” in the New Testament, that it means the 10 commandments. But how certain can we be on this?What about this when God spoke to Isaac:

Gen 26:4 “I will multiply your descendants as the stars of heaven, and will give…

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One other thing to consider when we try to understand what “commandments” meant in the NT is which commandments were stressed in the NT.

Mat 22:36  “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” Mat 22:37  And He said to him, ” 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' Mat 22:38  …

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To all who will contribute to this thread,I ask that you please refrain from bringing specific commandments in the thread. The Sabbath thread has caused great division and I do not wish to further that here. I am just trying to learn what the NT refers to when it speaks of “commandments” without specifying. Because without specifying, there is…[Read more]

Wow, this thread scares me. I have never seen a thread with so much tension on this board as this one. Even the various trinity threads have those who would be called brothers and sisters treating each other better. I now have a better understanding of why so many Israelites did see Yeshua as Messiah. The Messiah was to deliver his people from…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 20 2007,04:07)I don't think there is a god for Jesus to have been the son of.Hope this helps!StuartYou must be getting bored with the other threads .

Thanks t8! This board is the place I come to not forsake the assembling of ourselves together! I've been searching for a place of corporate worship lately but have found that many churches in my area won't welcome a non-trinitarian . But I'm feeling more and more led to return to worship as in the book of ActsAct 5:42 And every day, in the…[Read more]