94,And no one should judge you. It is a personal decision, and one that you have to work out between you and God. That's how I see it .

Interesting study. There are at least 400+ times the two words YHVH and Elohim are used in conjunction in the OT. That is “YHVH Elohim” or in modern translations, “LORD God”. Since “kurios” came to replace YHVH in the Septuagint and “kurios” is used for Lord in the NT, is Yeshua ever once called “kurios theos”? I think that would be the true test…[Read more]

MrsIM,Well, WJ told me what denomination he was at one time and I'm fairly certain they worship corporately on Sundays. In any case, here are the verses you asked about:

Rom 14:5  One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. Rom 14:6  He who observes the day, o…

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 02 2007,12:13)kejonnYou say…Quote All right, just finished listening to this last one. A local radio station carries the broadcast. There are two things that occured to me: that the trinity and Sunday worship kind of go hand-in-hand. What I mean by this is that neither is taught in scripture. And there is…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ Oct. 02 2007,12:23)Keyonn I wonder if you not missing the whole point of the New Covenant. But let me answer your Question first. When Paul gave us His letters, i believe that He got all the Good News from Jesus. So when He says to continue in the things that you have learned , He did not think that He meant scriptures of the old…[Read more]

Mrs,What does this passage mean to you?

2Ti 3:14 You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 2Ti 3:15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2Ti 3:16…

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Quote (IM4Truth @ Oct. 01 2007,20:27)The first covenant that God made was with NoahGen. 6:17 “And behold, I Myself and bringing the flood of waters on the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; and everything that is on the earth shall die.”verse 18  “But I will establish My covenant with you; and you will…[Read more]

Ken,I really think the emphasis for Col 2:16 is ANY Sabbath day. I know where you are coming from, but there are separations of the ideas by “or”. The new converts at Colossae had likely been observing Jewish holidays and other things, and the locals were giving them a hard time for doing so. I personally see nothing wrong with observing ANY…[Read more]

Quote (IM4Truth @ Oct. 02 2007,08:55)Keyon  Where did you get scripture out? You are so young and you could do so much good especially on Saturdayw since most people do not work and the oppertunity is so much greater of reaching them.WHY CAN'T YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND STUDY ALL OF THE COVENANTS? yOU WANTED ME TO LOOK AT THE TAPES, I AM SURE YOU…[Read more]

All right, just finished listening to this last one. A local radio station carries the broadcast. There are two things that occured to me: that the trinity and Sunday worship kind of go hand-in-hand. What I mean by this is that neither is taught in scripture. And there is more….Ronald Dart stated that, to the Jew and early Christians who were…[Read more]

Were these last 2 reactions to the link I provided? Did you all listen to the whole recording? Mr. Dart brought up some certain aspects that have not even been covered in the multitude of pages in this thread.Here's a follow-up: http://www.borntowin.net/radioprograms/christian_holidays_22.mp3Here's an important verse from the broadcastExo 31:13…[Read more]

Good radio show, heard it this morning. Check it out for more info on the Sabbath in the NT Church.http://www.borntowin.net/radioprograms/christian_holidays_21.mp3

WJ,And your point is fairly valid in that the Septuagint translators eventually eliminated YHWH from the manuscripts. There is much evidence that the earliest copies still had the Tetragrammaton when Greek writing Jews were the scribes. However, as time passed and the Septuagint fell out of favor with Jews, Christians who did not realize the value…[Read more]

WJ,I just had to reply to this one because it is so obvious: Mat 12:29 is quoted from the Septuagint, which came to replace YHWH or YHVH with “kyrios”. You know that the original Hebrew phrase was “YHWH our God is one YHWH”.

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 29 2007,02:28)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 29 2007,14:09)Hey chap,Take a chance and listen to this. I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago. Good stuff. I encourage others to check it out as well.http://www.borntowin.net/radioprograms/real_global_warming.mp3Here is some background on those responsible for the material discussed in the…[Read more]

Hey chap,Take a chance and listen to this. I heard it on the radio a few weeks ago. Good stuff. I encourage others to check it out as well.http://www.borntowin.net/radioprograms/real_global_warming.mp3

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 27 2007,01:31)HeavenNet family,I have just recently found out that I have a rare disease.  I had intended to take some time off from reading/posting here to return to some Bible studies that I abandoned when I found this site, and I have been able to do some studying; however, now that I have this condition, I've been in a…[Read more]

Here is a question for some of you. I have a regular secular job from Monday to Friday. What if I were to volunteer my time to a local mission or something similar on Saturday? Or if I participated in a prison ministry? This would be “work” per se, but I think we can see that Yeshua “worked” in a similar fashion on the Sabbath. That is, he was…[Read more]

To others,Just wanted you to know what I believe regarding the Sabbath. I believe that it is still valid and was not done away with, and that it is indeed the seventh day. However, I'm still studying how to observe it because it is quite obvious that you can do so with the wrong spirit. It is not just about resting as Yeshua showed. Do we ever see…[Read more]

Ken,OK, wikipedia forms your belief. Every other commentator I've seen disagree with wikipedia. Here are the verses that hints strongly at the real context.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, as he has said, “As I swore in my wrath, 'They shall not enter my rest,'” although his works were finished from the foundation of the world.…

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