Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 18 2007,11:04)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 18 2007,18:44)I thought you were a truth seeker?I say this through love…..These are the comments that will ruin your good work and your testimony, brother. You would be better to just stick to teaching and witnessing than to resort to belittling and accusations (your comment above is…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 18 2007,11:01)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 18 2007,18:44)How is it legalistic to say that Christmas falls on a pagan god's birthday?Because you assume that those who celebrate Christ's birthday on that day are, in fact, celebrating this pagen god's birthday.For all we know, when we celebrate the 4th of July it could also be on a…[Read more]

Hey, don't look to me for explanation. I'm still learning myself! If you really want to learn, let the Spirit lead! That's the way it was always meant to be.

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 18 2007,00:30)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 18 2007,14:58)The celebration of Christmas on December 25 was originally the pagan birthday of Mithras, the sun god, whose day of the week is still known as “Sunday. So if you care to celebrate Christmas, then recognize that you are NOT celebrating Christ's birthday, but Mithras'.I disagree.…[Read more]

The celebration of Christmas on December 25 was originally the pagan birthday of Mithras, the sun god, whose day of the week is still known as “Sunday. So if you care to celebrate Christmas, then recognize that you are NOT celebrating Christ's birthday, but Mithras'.

Ken,Well, Adam's body was created from the ground, That is the “flesh” part. And then God breathed into him, something He did not do with any other creature. “breath” and “spirit” are synonymous, although the word used for “breath” in Gen 2:7 was not the the word typically used for “spirit”. But it is used twice in other verse to refer to the…[Read more]

One other thing though — if henotheism is dedication to one God while acknowledging the existence of others, which God, the Father or Yeshua (not that I'm agreeing he is God!) should one be dedicated to so as to avoid pure polytheism?

MS,Here is another fly in your ointment. The ESV supports “sons of God” is Deu 32:8-9

Deu 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Deu 32:9 But the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

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Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2007,11:11)Ken, thanks for your thoughts on this.We know that Adam was made from mud.  We know that Jesus was “made from” God's holy spirit and Mary.  I would imagine there might be a bit of difference between the two Adam's.  The comparision is drawn because they are both of the human race (men).  However, we are told tha…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,23:48)I checked out those sites trcg.com and I don not believe what they believe on pratically everything I read. So you must not know my view.Well, not on all stuff, but they too believe that YHWH/Yeshua is the God of the OT/NT and that God the Father was being revealed by Yeshua. From http://www.realtruth.org/a…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,22:01)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,13:17)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,16:36)•v33 – if the Jews did not know this forgotten God, the Father, they sure seemed to think so back in John 8:41. In any case, who do you suppose the Jews were referring to when they said “God” and they called Him Father back in 8…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,21:17)Fully read my post under biblical henotheism so I don't have to repeat alot of it here. Please. No thanks. I've already seen your view. It can be found at http:realtruth.org and http://www.thercg.org . I don't need to read it twice. Anyone who makes the bold assertion that they are of God's true church (seemingly…[Read more]

MS, What of these verses?

Mat 5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Luk 20:36 for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Rom 8:14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. Gal 3:26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of…

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Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,17:18)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,10:12)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:10)MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.Not if all things were given to the Son from The Father. He inherited it all. He became most high.Example:Psa 97:9 For You are…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,16:36)•v33 – if the Jews did not know this forgotten God, the Father, they sure seemed to think so back in John 8:41. In any case, who do you suppose the Jews were referring to when they said “God” and they called Him Father back in 8:41?My Answer: John 8 54Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means n…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,17:12)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:10)MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.Not if all things were given to the Son from The Father. He inherited it all. He became most high.Sorry, but that is an answer that is left very wanting. I guess YHWH's…[Read more]

MS,Also whether it be “angels of God” or “sons of God”, what of this?

Dan 10:21 “However, I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth. Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince. Dan 12:1 “Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands guard over the sons of your people, will…

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MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,15:42)WJ,YHVH received an inheritence.  A Father doesn't get an inheritence from himself.  You get an inheritence from a Father.YHVH is a Son Just as the other sons of Deuteronomy 32:8-9 are sons.  In fact why do you think this verse was altered in late masoretic texts?  Because, it taught the unthinkable.Here is…[Read more]

MS,Let's look at you NT “proof text”, shall we?

Joh 10:33  The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” Joh 10:34  Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'? Joh 10:35  “If he called them gods, to whom the word of…

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