Quote (942767 @ Oct. 24 2007,09:16)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 25 2007,00:25)WJ and Not3,Not turning Jewish. I like ham and shellfish too much!! I am merely seeing what has happened to what the original followers of Jesus believed and taught and see where God would not want people honoring His day.Charity,Thanks!Hi KJ:Honoring his day or his…[Read more]

WJ and Not3,Not turning Jewish. I like ham and shellfish too much!! I am merely seeing what has happened to what the original followers of Jesus believed and taught and see where God would not want people honoring His day.Charity,Thanks!

Very interesting thing I heard today…and it rang so true in my soul. Israel was given the Sabbath and Christians moved away from it to Sunday. Muslims moved their day to Friday. Both use the Jewish scriptures as the basis of their religion. But the speaker said that he is certain it was definitely an act of God to move Christianity and Islam…[Read more]

MS,If the idea that you will be elohim excites you, good for you. Me, I'd rather live with a good ol' dose of humility and know who my God is.

BTW, don't Mormons support the idea that they will become “gods”?Here's a question. If Christians are to become “gods” and rule, and non-christians are tossed in the lake of fire, who will we rule?

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 22 2007,19:17)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 23 2007,12:12)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 22 2007,19:05)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 23 2007,12:02)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 19 2007,02:26)Satan as a Morning Star, not just a morning star “A Fallen Morning Star”Isaiah 14:1212 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 22 2007,19:13)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 23 2007,12:03)I knew it was bound to happen…when a religion makes God in man's image, then it won't be too long after that man thinks he can be a god. The natural progression of pagan mythologies…please look through my verses i have posted and explain them to my weak mind…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 22 2007,19:05)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 23 2007,12:02)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 19 2007,02:26)Satan as a Morning Star, not just a morning star “A Fallen Morning Star”Isaiah 14:1212 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nat…[Read more]

I knew it was bound to happen…when a religion makes God in man's image, then it won't be too long after that man thinks he can be a god. The natural progression of pagan mythologies…

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 19 2007,02:26)Satan as a Morning Star, not just a morning star “A Fallen Morning Star”Isaiah 14:1212 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!Not Satan but the king of Babylon (Is 14:4), aka, Nebuchadnezzar. Satan is not…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 21 2007,14:29)I have heard from the pulpit before that the first lie ever told was that men could become gods. It was the first lie Satan told to humans. Is this true? My belief is that the first lie Satan told to humans was actually him lying about how God would respond to their actions. Lying about whether God was…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 21 2007,01:54)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 21 2007,16:10)In the Tanach, “hell” is “sheol” which is basically the place of the dead that ALL people go to until the time of judgment.Really?….Where, in the Bible, do I read about saved christians waiting in shoel for their judgement?“Sheol” and “hades” are the same thing. They mean the…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 20 2007,22:54)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 21 2007,15:48)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 20 2007,22:36)I know someone who has been to hell (and back). It's real.What you mean is that you know of someone who has had some experience that they equated to hell. That does not mean there is a “Christian hell”. I'm sure if you researched hard enough,…[Read more]

In the Tanach, “hell” is “sheol” which is basically the place of the dead that ALL people go to until the time of judgment. The verses you list deal with “gehenna”, or the valley of Hinnon. It was a trash dump where trash was burned, and because trash was constantly being added, it was an “everlasting fire”.So, in this essence, that person you…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 20 2007,22:36)I know someone who has been to hell (and back). It's real.What you mean is that you know of someone who has had some experience that they equated to hell. That does not mean there is a “Christian hell”. I'm sure if you researched hard enough, you'd find that people have had all sorts of death experiences.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 20 2007,22:37)I thought you had left. Didn't you start a thread about that?You missed this part in my post in that threadQuote I will likely check back from time to time, but my contribution will be small if anything at all. Mostly, I just want to watch and see as the rest of you grow.I have been very active at this site…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 20 2007,21:48)If the truth claims of tooth-fairiests turn out to have veracity the consequences for non believers with be insignificant. If the claims of christians turn out to be true then the consequences of a bad call for nonbelievers will be severe and everlasting. Stu, if you're wrong about christianity then the…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,22:33)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 17 2007,12:21)MS,Here is another fly in your ointment. The ESV supports “sons of God” is Deu 32:8-9

Deu 32:8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Deu 32:9 But…

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Not3,If you'll go back and look at my original post, I never said anyone was worshiping a pagan god by celebrating Christmas on Dec 25th. I just said that you would be celebrating a pagan gods birthday. But that is not quite accurate because if you celebrate your birthday on a certain day, there are millions of others who celebrate the same day,…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 18 2007,11:23)KJ,I appreciate your view, like so many here, that holidays are following after other “god's” and are completely “secular” in nature. That is your opinion. I have a different opinion. It doesn't make me less Christian to celebrate, and it doesn' make you more spiritual to not celebrate.Did I say it did? No, I…[Read more]