Quote (seek and you will find @ Jan. 19 2008,10:12)He apologized to all, and that was criticized also.Yes, and justifiably so. He said sorry and then threw in the remark that we were just fulfilling scripture anyway. Apologies with conditions attached are false apologies.

Mrs,My beliefs are my own, you or Ken are not responsible for them. I am not saying you think that, but Ken pulled my name into his posts in an insulting fashion, and not just pertaining to what you said. Ken and I have often butted heads because I called him on his harsh and prideful actions. Just as Tim said, Ken didn't earn 4 warning blocks for…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 18 2008,09:00)Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 18 2008,22:10)I use “King Messiah” as opposed to just “Messiah” because “Messiah” just means “anointed”. “King Messiah” would indicate the one who will come in the messianic age. And kejonn is correct, that one never is called “messiah” in Tanakh. But I wish kejonn all the luck in the world…[Read more]

Cyrus was rare in that he did not force any religion on any of those under him. He was one of the first to espouse freedom of religion. Many scholars believe Zoroastrianism influenced Judaism during their time of exile. Darius also acknowledged Ahura Mazda. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_I_of_PersiaDarius in his inscriptions appears as a…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Jan. 19 2008,01:16)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,23:55)Some people may not know this, but King Cyrus worshiped a God called Ahura Mazda, the God of Zoroastrianism.Hey Kejonn,Where is this written? Also am I wrong to say that “Cyrus” can also mean offspring? I thought I read that somewhere? Maybe in a NIV Study note…[Read more]

It is as Tim says. My site is basically inhabited right now by those who have been made to feel very unwelcome here so you'll just have to realize that our conversation might drift to events over here from time to time. That will fade with time but I will discourage such talk from this point on. My apologies to those who have been offended.Ken has…[Read more]

I agree Ken. I do not care for insincere apologies. I forgive you but is not because of your condescending apology.

Personally, I think much of who Jesus is tied in with God promising the Jewish people that they will be a light to the nations (Gentiles). By themselves, have they? Would mankind even have access to the Tanach if Jesus had never been born? The Jewish people weren't being very strong lights so Jesus brought billions to the knowledge of Yahweh.

I'm still looking Tow, but I have all confidence. In any case, one point that Tow brought up is that Jesus was never anointed properly, according to Levitical law. But what of King Cyrus (Isa 45:1)? Cyrus was not a king of Judah or Israel, yet God called him “His anointed”. Cyrus was anointed of God to do many things for God's people. Some people…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,20:56)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,12:46)Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:59)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,09:46)Ken, why don't you just leave? Is it that hard? Because it seems that this is bothering you too much. Blow in a paper bag, take deep breathes, do some yoga. You're stressing dude.Is that your answer why we…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:59)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,09:46)Ken, why don't you just leave? Is it that hard? Because it seems that this is bothering you too much. Blow in a paper bag, take deep breathes, do some yoga. You're stressing dude.Is that your answer why we should reject Jesus? Why we should leave Jesus for the “answers” you…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:54)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,09:42)Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 18 2008,09:23)Hi Ken. The seductive attractions of SOL's gnosticism are that it appeals to our mind and our adventurous side. To take the bible as a simple message as we do is regarded by them with a certain eyebrow…[Read more]

But you don't seem to realize that Jesus and the son of David spoken of in the OT are two different cats. That does not lessen Jesus, it makes him someone different. Your are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

Ken, why don't you just leave? Is it that hard? Because it seems that this is bothering you too much. Blow in a paper bag, take deep breathes, do some yoga. You're stressing dude.

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 18 2008,09:23)Hi Ken. The seductive attractions of SOL's gnosticism are that it appeals to our mind and our adventurous side. To take the bible as a simple message as we do is regarded by them with a certain eyebrow raising smile. They feel intelligent people would go beyond scripture.…[Read more]

Nick,Are you certain that Jesus and Shiloh are one in the same? The OT actually says very little of the coming son of David, and only a little more of the world to come. So how can you be certain they are one in the same and that Jesus' was not to be someone totally different?

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:14)Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 18 2008,09:09)Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:01)Where is heaven defending the faith?Why can't you defend your own faith Ken? What if God asked you to witness to a devout Jew, would you do it? Or would you be scared? You have been hinging your faith on Jesus and the commandments and have not…[Read more]

Its all in the terminology IMHO Mandy. However, if you go to first post of this thread, you will find the passages about “King Messiah”. However, when you go to the OT you will not find any passages that match “messiah” up with what Tow is calling “King Messiah”. A swap has taken place and people don't like talking about it — the coming son of…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,16:01)Where is heaven defending the faith?Why can't you defend your own faith Ken? What if God asked you to witness to a devout Jew, would you do it? Or would you be scared? You have been hinging your faith on Jesus and the commandments and have not moved on to gain the necessary knowledge to defend your own faith so…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 17 2008,15:56)I'm all ways looking for truth kejonn gives us the truth that you have found.  MAY AS WELL THIS PLACE IS not FOR BELIEVERS!What do the cults say?  The closest I found were the ESSENES.  BUT even they give witness of Jesus.SO GIVE US ALL YOUR FINDINGS why WE SHOULD DENY JESUS.I mean from your cult findings. And if…[Read more]