Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,18:57)Hi KJ, Make up your mind. Either Paul was a messenger of God's or a liar.I think God makes it pretty plain he was serving Him and not Satan.But to the rebellious Jews Christ and Paul are stumbling stones.ORPaul was doing the best he could with what he was lead to teach. He just happened to pull in some stuff…[Read more]

If someone came to you from another religion, would you listen to them? To the people of Jesus' day, Paul was mixing some elements with paganism in with the message of Judaism. He was not teaching Torah, so why would you expect the Jews to listen to him?

Nick,Not so. Paul was teaching things totally foreign to them. It had nothing to do with hating God but not liking it when someone taught that the Torah was unnecessary. Observant Jews love the Torah and see it as a way to honor God.You seem to be of the mindset that everybody who is outside of Christianity hates God because they don't serve Him…[Read more]

So you are saying that some will not sacrifice but some will?

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2008,17:22)Without looking into it deeply at this stage, it is possible that Jesus is being spoken of specifically and others too.I don't see a problem with a scripture speaking of someone and also speaking in a general sense of others.Also if Jesus is relegated to the office of prophet only, then such might as well become…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,17:35)Hi SOL,Paul the chameleon. So loving as to use whatever he had from his background to reach Jews and gentiles alike.Of course he upset the jewish religious folk who hate God and God's servants.Why would you be so quick to say the people that the people who were upset by Paul hated God? I saw the other day…[Read more]

So you believe that Jesus' sacrifice was only temporary and will be replaced by animal sacrifices?

I guess you are not looking closely enough to see how James is specifically in opposition to Paul here. Look in the very next chapter where Paul says:Rom 4:1  What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? Rom 4:2  For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. R…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,14:09)Hi KJ, There will be a remnant of faithful Jews living with Christ in Jerusalem after his return. But the sons of God will return with Christ.Zech 145You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in…[Read more]

Let's get mores specific Nick: Paul: Rom 3:28  For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.James: Jas 2:24  You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.The word that Paul uses for “apart” here in the NASB is “choris” which meanschōriskho-rece'Adverb from G5561; at a space, that is, separately o…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 21 2008,02:03)Most of the second coming information comes from the NT, but it's in the OT too – e.g. Zech 14.What do you make of this then?Zec 14:19  This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Booths. Zec 14:20  In that day there will be inscribed o…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,13:06)Hi Sol,Prove itI'll help. Paul saysRom 3:27  Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. Rom 3:28  For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Gal 3:2  This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you re…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,12:32)Hi KJ,God makes the rules. We do not judge Him or His plan.We do know the benefits or obedience to that plan are great.But your response is predicated on the belief that the Holy Bible is the only 100% pure unadulterated words of God. I know you believe they are, but even the bible itself nevers makes such a…[Read more]

Quote (Son of Light @ Jan. 21 2008,03:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2008,20:39)Hi Not3, What does Romans 3 say about those of a good conscience aligned with the Law?It would both defend and accuse them on the day of Judgement.Then again I must pose this question: how is it “good news” to come to someone who is leading a moral life and tell them…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 21 2008,00:48)Give me a break. The ugliest exchanges I have seen in my time at Heaven.net have been in the last 6 months, and you kejonn were in the thick of it. Get off your holier than thou pedestal and quit with this 'them and us' nonsense!I challenge you to show me.

To clarify my last post, I will admit to questioning whether Jesus was truly the Messiah, but by that I did not mean messiah in a general sense, but the coming David of the OT, who was never called messiah. The very few times you see that one mentioned he is either called “son of David”, “David”, or “My servant David”. The Jews did not start…[Read more]

I think some people are failing to see that Ken did not pick up his warnings all in the same time period. If I recall, he picked up his first one when the Sabbath was a hot topic on here. Ken often had a tendency of being nasty towards people who did not agree with him about the Sabbath.As to the others, Ken constantly called out others who are…[Read more]

Nick,How would the African know this was a sin?

No one is able to help?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 20 2008,15:52)Hi SOL, Not really.We can refer back to ALL that is written. You have to remove parts like Paul's teachings and add sympathetic writings.But there are gnostic writings that are written. The Koran is written. the Book of Mormon is written. L. Ron Hubbard's works on Scientology are written. So what you are…[Read more]