Quote (942767 @ Feb. 16 2008,16:35)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,15:49)Here's the scenario: God made the animals, God made Adam and Eve. One of God's animals (as far as Eve knew) said the fruit was fine. Eve did not know evil, so it was easy for her to believe in the words spoken by a creature that God created. Then, Adam shares and God punishes…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,16:08)Hi tim4, Perhaps because17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake;??Add that to the scenario: (1) God said “don't eat” (2) Adam and Eve did not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,16:05)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 17 2008,08:37)Is God the bible Nick? You seem to think so. God is spirit, I did not know He was written on paper. If so, your view of God is that He certainly corrupt as there asre many corrupt passages in the bible.Hi KJ, Are you saying that what you quote here you do so only to show…[Read more]

Also, since the serpent was just an animal, can it help being the “home” for Satan? Why did Jesus kill someone else's pigs when he cast out the demons? What right did he have in killing something that belonged to someone else?

Is God the bible Nick? You seem to think so. God is spirit, I did not know He was written on paper. If so, your view of God is that He certainly corrupt as there asre many corrupt passages in the bible.

Or devolved, depending on how you view it.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,11:46)Hi Tim4,John 6:51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”John 6:58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,00:29)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,16:17)Nick,You are right. Thinking people are seemingly unwelcome here.Hi KJ, Thoughtful people do not dare to judge God.How is pointing out biblical issues judging God?

But if Eve knew no evil then why would she suspect the serpent who was made by God?

Nick,You are right. Thinking people are seemingly unwelcome here.

ST,But don't you attend a “oneness” church? How is that close to a church that supports your beliefs? Are you certain that you are not trying to fit in and compromising on your beliefs? Peer pressure is strong.

I'd take your side of the bet Stu. There is little “fear” for an atheist to be a closet Christian, but much societal fear in vice-versa.

Here's the setup:(1) God created all and said it was goodGen 1:31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. (2) Adam and Eve did not know what evil was until they ate of the fruitGen 3:5 “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you…[Read more]

Here's the scenario: God made the animals, God made Adam and Eve. One of God's animals (as far as Eve knew) said the fruit was fine. Eve did not know evil, so it was easy for her to believe in the words spoken by a creature that God created. Then, Adam shares and God punishes them for believing one of God's creatures. There is some seriously…[Read more]

Ah, so you are saying God made a no-win situation for Adam? Sounds kinda cruel of God, dontcha think?Where was Adam going to go, to another woman?!?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2008,20:14)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,12:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2008,18:45)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,11:09)How would they know rebellion if they had never experienced it?Hi KJ,Experienced it?This is not an intellectual game but life. Did your Mum explain rebellion to you before she smacked your bum?Yes,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 15 2008,19:09)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,11:09)How would they know rebellion if they had never experienced it?How do we know about repentance if we don't know what righteousness is?How would you know unrighteousness without the ability to know good and evil?

Gen 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”– Thus before this they did not know, so how could they understand? Notice that Eve did not even hesitate once the serpent told her she would…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2008,18:45)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,11:09)How would they know rebellion if they had never experienced it?Hi KJ,Experienced it?This is not an intellectual game but life. Did your Mum explain rebellion to you before she smacked your bum?Yes, but if you believe the bible then you must admit that mankind had no idea of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 15 2008,16:51)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 16 2008,09:16)Here's one to ponder: since Adam and Eve did not know good and evil until they ate of the fruit, how would it be a sin to eat of the fruit since they did not know the difference? All they knew was that God told them not too. Had they seen death before that? How did they even know…[Read more]