Mike,If you need to complement me on such base aspect you surely do not know me… I won't even say “thanks”.

Barley,I think you have put it quite clearly, succinctly and pointedly.And Martian, this post is good but: – What is your point? – Who are you hoping to convince that is not already convinced? – Who is your audience?

RK,Because the Sin of Adam required a HUMAN BLOOD Sacrifice – and the Sacrifice had to be SINLESS – and there was NO Sinless man- a dilemma, eh?.But because God already had planned for Salvation he accepted Animal Blood Sacrifice instead.As the Scriptures says, “If Animal Sacrifice for the Sin of mankind was enough to satisfy God then the nations…[Read more]

RK,Be careful of claiming that Jesus is calling himself God.Jesus went to pains to explain that he is NOT God, he is the SON of God.Why would he go to all this trouble on earth and then claim the position when he went back to heaven…RK, GOD is not created… GOD Cannot CHANGE… God is ALWAYS GOD!if God could change then could not possibly…[Read more]

Mike, did I not give the “correct” definition of “Perfect” – “Perfect for the PURPOSE for which it was created”.Man was created “perfect” for the purpose that God created him – did not mean he could not evolve – clearly, he was to do so.If God had created a “Perfect” system as he is “Perfect” then there COULD NOT BE ANY Change – There would be…[Read more]

Martian,BOTH your version of the term applies:Jesus is rightly BOTH Before John the Baptist in the Spiritual sense – Pre-Existence,and also”becomes first” in the new Testament revelation Leadership sense – Pre-Eminence.

Those who feed on “definition of word” will be forever hungry: for as often as one seemingly palatable interpretation is swallowed down in one moment, it is regurgitated in preference for another seemingly more palatable interpretation.

Mike,Are you seriously saying that you think Ezekiel 28:15, is about Adam?Please brother, think again… I urge you with genuine concern.Consider:Why is he called the “Anointed Cherub”?What was it that he “Covers”?Also, What are the “Fiery Stones” that he walked amongst?And what is the significance of being on God's Holy Mountain (What is God's…[Read more]

Mike,Not 'Wise Man (with Foolish heart!) vs Fool man (who thinks he has a Wise Head)', but what also I was trying to say in regard to wrangling with Gene, try:  1 Timothy 6:4-5,

Mike,Put you finger here: Ezekiel 28:15, and see the verse: “Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.”

Mike,I dubbed you “Thomas”  – How such like (Twice now, I hope you don't make it a third time, or I may have to call you Philip and Peter as well!!).Are you really asking me to point out Scripture to you :    “How long have you been and yet you ask 'Show me the Scripture'”    “Do not be unbelieving, but believing”, JustAskin does not post to dece…[Read more]

Mike,Did God send “Jesus” into the word? (John 17:3)?Or did the one that God send become known as/was named “Jesus” at his birth as man in the flesh?Brother, if it helps, I support most of your concerning Jesus – Pre-and post…Is it my turn to ask you to 'relax'? “Illegitimis non carborundum” in other words?

And by the way, and having not read the posts from previous pages, but Mike is right (top post on this page)……except that, Mike, you may want to consider that “Lucifer” was “Perfect in the day of his creation until iniquity was found in him”Consider what “Perfect” means ..consider “Perfect for the 'purpose' for which he was created”A…[Read more]

How interesting,I think SF's along with Gene's and mike's input has just about covered the major bases concerning opinions on Christ.Oh, yeah, and there is JustAskin's! Gene ——- } { SF ——— } — { Truth Mike ——- } { JustAskin— } {Who is closer to the Truth?Well, that is quite simple to answer : The…[Read more]

Irene,No such thing as Half Angels. The offspring, Nephilim, are Men – Scriptures clearly says “Men” of renown.The Nephilim died in the flood – but the wicked Angels shed their flesh body and returned to the heavenly realm where God them ordered for them to be 'chained' and then access to earth was banned to all angels except with God's…[Read more]

I am intending to compile lists of Scriptures that have repeated themes and group them together.I will need your 'professional and expert help' to do this.The posts will be grouped together so individual posts will be deleted after the grouping.Please say which group you think your post belongs to.Also state which Chapter and verse you are…[Read more]

“To which of the Angels did he ever say 'You are my Son,Today i have begotten you'!”Jesus was a MAN when this was said to him, so yes, to “to No Angel did God ever say these words”As Shimmer quoted and WJ concurred (as i concur) Jesus' begetting was a Spiritual and Symbolic begetting.Every verse surrounding that verse speaks of Jesus at or after…[Read more]

t8,Thanks for the tip on Notepad. I save something to the notepad once and could never find it again – is it specific to the thread (I guess so!)?t8, shimmer, I urge you to reconsider this idea that 'Men are Angels'.Angels are not afforded the direct pleasure of the Holy Spirit of God (“For he does not give aid to Angels”)Men are not Angels – ……[Read more]

Mike,We are brothers because I Begot you of myself. I look out for you as I look out for Karmarie when she was here.Knocking heads with Gene is not healthy nor wholesome – in fact, you are responsible for making him worse by going against him. Why? Because the more you go against him the more he tries to find ways of saying that you are wrong and…[Read more]

t8, Shimmer,Men are not Angels.Angels can take on temporary human-like bodily form and 'appear' as non-descript men – and as such they were often initially mistaken for Men. But any time spent with them quiackly reveal that they were NOT flesh and blood men but superior, powerful beings that had a fixed purpose for being where they were.Angels are…[Read more]