Mike,Did you ever answer that question? Third time of asking?

Strain at a gnat…Mike, the emphasis on 'preJesus' which could be ignored , was simply to state the difference between Jesus as Man and Jesus before he was man, as Angel.This then goes along with my question of 'did God send JESUS' into the world…as stated by Jesus himself or did he send his Servant who became known as Jesus by God's…[Read more]

Hi Gene,Thanks, except that I should have said 'Adam brought death', which is then balanced by 'Jesus brought life'.Momentary lapse…

Martian,We are all children of 'Man' through Adam.We become children of God through Christ.For the first sinned and we are in sin through that one, and through sin, the estrangement from the Father.But the second brought life and the hope of Sonship through faith in his testimony of the Father.

Mike,Do you mean that all this time, these days, over this period, you simply meant that 'Begotten' means when 'Jesus' came into being?Can you explain why you did not explain this in the beginning?Do you mean this was all a pointless exercise. A waste of energy. Falling apart of relationships and unity. Exposure of lack of begotten…[Read more]

WJ,But you do not believe so by your own thought but by the indoctrination of the abomination.

Edj,When 'the angel that became Satan' became Satan, he sought to pursuade many other angels to rebel against God, and indeed, he brought one third of the heavenly host down with him.Edj, right now, you, are being like that one.

Hi Terra, bro, where ya been?Yeah, earthbound ones believe that the infinite God was in such a rush to create earth and all within that he created it all(brought about the creation of it through His Word) in six rotations of the planet….unless, hey, what if…one rotation of the earth took 100,000,000 years??

edj,Very sad. If you think that quoting Scripture out of context is worthy then i repeat, 'Very Sad'.

All,Why all the struggle?First the thought, then the word, then the act.The Thought is In God.The Word is From GodThe Act is By 'Jesus'God carries out His words, his utterances, through agents… Angels.How many different types of residents are described in God's kingdom?Two.God and Angels (p.s. The Holy Spirit is 'of God' not a seperate being. It…[Read more]

t8,I was hoping to see you around.I wanted to say you should you have been promoted to 't32', and maybe 't64' later on (let him who has wisdom understand)it is not so much than Trinitarians don't understand 'theos' in context. It is more that they are constrained to believe what they are told. Even when they see something dubious in trinity, they…[Read more]

Edj,We all judge… You are judging me now…Eat your own tastey quote and try to eschew it's bitterness in your stomach.Is my post false? No! so why the warning quote?

Shimmer,Ok, i will make him an offer he can refuse.

Shimmer,Edj is leading you off line.The 'We' he is refering to are the 'Elect of God'. The 'We' who are 'Chosen before time' by God.This is why JustAskin suggests that when referring to them (the Elders, the Disciple, Apostles, the Saints) the 'We' should be quoted so as to make it an explicit reference to them.When referring to ourselves, it…[Read more]

Shimmer,Marty has been showing good faith recently.I have commended his posts.At one time Jesus said, concerning the Jews and others, 'oh, how I desired to gather you under my wings like a hen gathers her chicks', and so I also desired that we 'chick, chick, chickens' could be gathered under his comforting, shielding, nurturing wings here in this…[Read more]

94,Complete excellence. In that post, you are blessed.And when he was 'perfected' his Father 'begot' him as the 'perfect' Son in Spirit, a spiritual betting of a human person.

Hi Mike,I see you listed your beliefs on 'Begotten'.Excellent. So now that episode can be closed.Did I not suggest that if you simply believe that 'Begotten' (preJesus) was the time when 'preJesus' came into existence, then all is well. I think this is what you are saying, yes?.But as to the quotes, '…this day…' I see Jack stating that…[Read more]

Edj,Ha ha..Mike, no longer begotten…how fractal…Mike was my first begotten…then Karmarie…For he taketh away the first in order to establish the second.Edj, well spotted.I should add that to the 'Fractal Scriptures thread.

Mike,I think you should go back to school. You have only one theme and that is “Jesus is begotten” and that's probably why you keep on with it – you got nothing else to offer – How many times have you written – I never heard of that – I never seen that – Yet you go on like you know everything – and yet know nothing.If every time someone post…[Read more]

Mike,How does Revelation show God in his throne room.There is ONLY GOD being worshipped. Surrounded by all sorts singing and praising and worshipping him. doing service, coming and going to and from his presence.Where is Jesus: Amongst those AROUND and In the midst of the Throne – Please do not picture an earthly scene -God is Spirit and does not…[Read more]