TT,You cannot read. Romans 10:7 DOES NOT SAY that Jesus was raised from the abyss.you wrote: Quote Jesus did not say he was going to God. He committed His spirit to God's will (hand).If He went up to God then how is it that you say that He “ceased to exist?” You guys like to confuse everything. Paul said that Jesus was raised up from the ABYSS…[Read more]

Oh and WJ,When have I run away from a question? I let you off the hook.One question sprouts two more, those two sprout another two – unless some things are dropped tangential numbers of questions result.Even when I ask for a truce on an unresolveble point TT claims that this is running away. What are you after TT – Blood? Do you not understnd…[Read more]

Wow – you guys are amazing.I complement TT and i get slated. Guess you guys just not used to it.Sarcasticly delivered – maybe – a complement is a complement. And it was well meant.Have I not said that we should acknowledge truth? So I add: dispute wrong – acknowledge truth.Lighten up guys.

TT wrote concerning Jesus in the grave:Quote His spirit left His body. Then it went down to hades (the abyss according to Paul, Rom. 10:7). Then He ascended from the abyss on the third day.His consciuos life was uninterrupted the whole time.TT,Did not Jesus' spirit go 'up' to God: “Into thy hands I commit my Spirit”.Was God then in the…[Read more]

TT,How can you be saying against me. I am congratulating you.I know it is not something that happens a lot to you (The praise of men is like a foreign woman to you – not quite sure how to receive it/her)You spoke a truth – did I not say that we should acknowledge truth – even from our adversaries?How is what I said saying anything about the…[Read more]

TT,Thank you for discovering me errors. I am wonderfully relieved.Your God of half truths has empowered me more than the Holy Spirit.By the way – Does your God of half truths, God of deceit, have a name? Satan, perhaps?

TT,I concede. You were right all along.How do I convert to become a Trinitarian?Sorry everyone, I may have been mistaken in all that I have been writing in this forum.TT has prevailed in the truth and shown me the errors of my ways.(By the way, this is a half truth – you will need to work out which part is the truth and which is deliberate deceipt!)

TT,God came to earth in the guise of a 'messenger' – 'messenger' from whom?… and was prevailed against by a human?TT, I beg you reconsider your views before you fall even further from reality.I have warned you before.

TT,God came to earth in the guise of a 'messenger' – 'messenger' from whom?… and was prevailed against by a human?TT, I beg you reconsider your views before you fall even further from reality.I have warned you before.

TT wrote:Quote “It means that He bore the guilt and punishment of our sins. Our sins had separated us from God. Jesus died IN OUR PLACE so we could be reconciled to God and enjoy Him forever.”May all the angels of heaven rejoice along with the Holy ones of mankind – TT has become one of us.Welcome TT. Can all non-Trinitarians please applaud and…[Read more]

TT,ok, I congratulate you on raising your discussion level to that of middle school level and subdued your usual wayward rantings.Never the less, you appear to deliberately mis-read , misinterpret or something else so that you can make your points appear valid.1) Spiritual death. I said this would be at the end. You appear to be trying to make out…[Read more]

TT,Your retort was not even worth writing – you sound like a 6 year old child. Please think before you write and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your mind and your hand – If I am wrong or mistaken about what I write then you will be guided to a scriptural response – and I will acknowledge the truth of it.

TT,Your retort was not even worth writing – you sound like a 6 year old child. Please think before you write and ask the Holy Spirit to guide your mind and your hand – If I am wrong or mistaken about what I write then you will be guided to a scriptural response – and I will acknowledge the truth of it.

I suggest that the two of you (WJ and TT) are out of your depth even in something you both profess to be masters of.All your retorts are baseless comebacks and unworthy of your 'learning'Where is the 'meat' in the sandwich of your reponses – I would starve if your were to feed me.

I suggest that the two of you (WJ and TT) are out of your depth even in something you both profess to be masters of.All your retorts are baseless comebacks and unworthy of your 'learning'Where is the 'meat' in the sandwich of your reponses – I would starve if your were to feed me.

WJ,'Spritual common sense' was not meant to be taken for examination – it simply means 'those who possess Spiritual Common sense', anyone with even the least amount of spiritual sense, spiritual anointment.Also, note the 'AND'…If this is the best you can come back at me for I suggest you just concede as there is nothing in what I have wriitten…[Read more]

WJ,'Spritual common sense' was not meant to be taken for examination – it simply means 'those who possess Spiritual Common sense', anyone with even the least amount of spiritual sense, spiritual anointment.Also, note the 'AND'…If this is the best you can come back at me for I suggest you just concede as there is nothing in what I have wriitten…[Read more]

TT,It is absurd to claim that anyone can physically wrestle with God. further, the Scriptures (and common Spiritual sense) says that noone (human) has seen God.Like the analogy of the Sun and the rays – if you reached out to touch the Sun you would be vapourised before you got anywhere near it (The core). But these are at a human physics level.No…[Read more]

TT,It is absurd to claim that anyone can physically wrestle with God. further, the Scriptures (and common Spiritual sense) says that noone (human) has seen God.Like the analogy of the Sun and the rays – if you reached out to touch the Sun you would be vapourised before you got anywhere near it (The core). But these are at a human physics level.No…[Read more]

Elizabeth, Thank you for the quick response,