WJ,I see that all your trinitarians 'proofs' have come down to one verse: John 1:1!

WJ,You guys are truly amazing!Matthew 27:42-44: “He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is King of the Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him.He trusted in God; Let Him (God) deliver Him (Jesus) now if He (God) will have Him(Jesus); for He (Jesus) said, 'I am the Son of God'”…'even the robbers reviled…[Read more]

TT, You are so shameless.'Honor the Son…', what did you think you saw that you could prove a victory over me?That 'Honor the Son…' meant 'Worship the Son'?Then what of Psalms 8:5:'For You have made him (Man) a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him (Man) with GLORY and HONOR.'Is God Worshipping Man that He…

TT,How are you quoting Psalms 2:12 at me as proof of something that I don't known what (that I am saying 'Worship Jesus'? Which I am not).Did you read verse 11 before you started you halfbaked toothless barking?Do you never tire of embarassing yourself?What does verse 11 say?Psalms 2:11: 'Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling'…[Read more]

TT,”Praise, Honor and Glorify God and Christ””Worship God alone”What have I written that is ambiguous or profits your claims?

TT,What are you babbling on about.”Honor is Worship”? Come on – are you for real? How many times are MEN Honored on a daily basis all over the world.They must be some crazy lot of Worshipping going on World wide – Can one Honor the Pope (q? to Catholics), Can you honor their parents, can one honor their spouse – Worship – Same as Worship you…[Read more]

WJ,Honor is not worship. even man can be, and is, honored.Try again.

TT,your desparation to make a claim on me is futile:What is “The Sake of Christ”?It is to do the WILL OF GOD his Father and Our Father…Please…. try something else or back off…

TT,To believe in the “Father” is to also believe in the Son.You mean “To believe in God does not necessitate believing in Jesus.”These two are not the same statements.Many believe in God alone – Traditional Jews do not believe in Jesus, Muslims believe that Jesus was just a prophet.But if you say “I believe in the Father” the how do you say “I…[Read more]

TT,How is offering “Praise, Glory, honor, power” to God and the Lamb classed as Worship?From where did you come?To where are you going?

TT,You cannot read even. Years of twisting the truth and force fitting trinitarianism into Scriptural Truth have caused your mind to resemble overcooked noodles in a bowl.Why are you posting half verses to me thinking that you ahve just discovered some new trinitarian twisted bible verse.Have these verses not been discussed already – is this new -…[Read more]

TT,From under which rock have you crawled?

SeekingTruth,Quote I agree no angel true to God would accept worship (never said they would) but neither should the Son of God if it also was inappropriateI am saying that what was done to Jesus WAS NOT Worship. Your own definition does not match with what happened to Jesus.Kings and Holy men were equally treated in the samw way but noone said…[Read more]

Marty wrote: “No, Christians are the children of God, and not of Abraham.”What was the great mystery that God revealed folloing the death and resurrection of Christ?Was it not that ALL who come to a knowledge of God through Christ would be part of God's holy family – ALL, from every tribe, clan, nation, Jew, Proselyte, Samaritan, of any 'colour',…[Read more]

SeekingTruth,No angel would accept ANYTHING THAT REMOTELY could be viewed as “Worship” or even Praise, Glory or Honor – None.So, to even bow down before an angel, even if not Worship would be dissauded by the angel.In the scriptures, The Greek word used and translated “Worship” has been shown to mean many other things other than “WORSHIP”. (The…[Read more]

IS it sufficient to believe ONLY in Jesus christ.Why the long debate: “NO”, it is not. To believe in Jesus Christ, by necessity, is also to believe in the Father.If one terminates at believing in Christ one is a disbeliever because Jesus did not come for himself but to reveal the father and bring us to an understanding of HIM (The father) so we…[Read more]

SeekingTruth,Without going into to much expansion: Yes, Jesus spoke the words of his father 'of his own free will' BECAUSE that is the right thing for him to do and he always does the right thing. There is no comflict – there is no issue. Why do you raise it as a point for discussion”For I can do nothing of myself except what I see the father…[Read more]

SeekingTruth,If you worship Jesus because you think you are worshipping God THEN you are making Jesus into an IDOL.You are worshipping the OBJECT of Christ.I say again and again and again. YOU (ALL) DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY WORSHIP – YOU (ALL) JUST USE THE WORD WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE and this is whythe discussion gets into a messy war of…[Read more]

Mike,Since when did the Holy Spirit appear as a MAN?We understand that the trinity is such a 'way off the mark' doctrine that NOONE actually believes it. What they do believe, though, is that because it was taught to them and it is written as a Creed and so many OTHER (FOOLS: Read Misled!) believe it then they must beleive also otherwise they…[Read more]

Mike,Your post is good.Keep up the good works through the power of God's Holy Spirit.