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    Jerry,I have said what I have said. Let another judge between us.

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    Hi Nick,Gotta disagree with your last point.Hebrews 4:12 says '…even to the division of the soul and spirit…'This means 'death'!Without the spirit the soul is lifeless, dead. The soul is the flesly part of man, that is why man cannot ascend to heaven, flesh and blood, the soul, cannot ascend to heaven, only the 'water', the spirit.In Genesis,…[Read more]

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    Edj,This is amazing. In all I have been reading I can't believe I have never read Thessalonians. Thanks to the Spirit for the revelation!I was intrigued to read vs 4: ' who opposes andexalts himself above all…sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.'Has WJ and TT read this? How is it they aren't claiming that this is…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,Thanks for the input. The post is a response to Kerwin, who claims from out of context verses in Ezekiel, that man's spirit is corrupt and we need to ditch it and gain a new one.Your post adds to mine in that we still retain our sinful 'soul' and can still reject the Holy Spirit, but 'he who once walks in the way of God but then departs…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,The new Spirit that God is refering to in Ezekiel, is His Holy Spirit. When we have the Holy Spirit we walk in the ways of God because His Spirit is the Spirit of Truth.When we have the Holy Spirit we are Children of God and God is our Father.

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    Sorry Kerwin,You stumble in your understanding.It has been mentioned by two as a witness, Nick and myself, that the spirit is not corrupt but still you repeat it again.As for Mary, are you a Scientist?The Holy Spirit supplied, supernaturally, the uncorrupted genetic material to produce a child.I am no biologist, and I don't need to be because…[Read more]

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    Karmarie,Please don't think it 'creepy'. There is nothing creepy about it.As many words as exist and as many phrases as can be used will total to something matching something the individual is 'looking for'.This is how people begin believung in Spiritism, wijiboards, plamistry, and so on.The 666 one also came up with 'god' words too but that isn't…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick, thanks for the correction.

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    Hi Nick,Thanks for the statements. Should they be directed to Kerwin.I wanted him to show me how came about with the idea that the spirit can be corrupt.God could not receive it at the death of the soul if it were sinful and corrupt.However, you can read writings where others teach this…out of ignorance, maybe!There is nothing in scripture…[Read more]

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    JustAskin replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years ago

    Gene,Mike is absolutely right. Our Will is a free Will with which we can follow the teachings of Christ and gain Life, or not follow the teachings of Christ and die the final death.God wants us to Worship him with our free Will because we recognise his complete Sovereignty.All the things that are occuring until the end of time will attest to the…[Read more]

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    Karmarie,IJust put my full name in that Gemetria calculator and it came back as 'the lord jesus christ'…It seems to be that people are submitting words and phrases, some for fun… I can't say that it really tells me anything of a massive scriptural truth except the 666 thing.I'm leaving it at this point

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    Karmarie,Interesting list of Gemetria.I'm surprised that EDJ hasn't posted this before. It might have been more effective than constantly writing 'jesus=74'…Incidently, are there any 'god' words that fit '666'?And do Gemetria work in other languages or does the world need to subscribe to 'English'? No dissing, a genuine question as the world is…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,The egg from the female can be considered as the body element. The sperm is that which supplies the 'spirit'.Even if such a disgustingly corrupt thing as human cloning could be done it would only be cloning already corrupted flesh. I think your mind's framework is a little ascew here to imagine such a thing.As for Ephesians, do you read…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,We inherit corruption from birth, from our Father parent. That is why it was necessary for the Holy Spirit to come upon Mary and not another Male of mankind. Remember that din came into the world through Adam, not Eve, even though it was Eve who first defied God's rule by eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and…[Read more]

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    Hi all,Can some, or all of you, summaries what you stance is on this issue.I have read back a number of pages and cannot make head nor tail of what's going on and who is sayinb what…just a load of old Testament verses, which, although applicable, seem to confuse the main issue.Perhaps, it's because the topic was running its course, but it just…[Read more]

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    Logic, I said “Spirit” where you said “Nature” … none the less it is quite clear that Jesus was not Divine and my response stands.

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    Logic,I think your comment that Jesus was born with a divine spirit is faulty. You are obviously ignoring the major part of what I wrote:”Jesus HAD TO BE FULLY MAN WITH A SINLESS SOUL” in order to atone for the Sins of Mankind. Only by this means could salvation be purchased by his Blood.The Spirit doesn't 'die' – it is the Soul that dies. The…[Read more]

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    Kerwin,Jesus' seed comes in the line of David from Mary parentage, his mother. Joseph 'adopted' Jesus as his son and became his father (Joseph begot Jesus).Although adopting Jesus would have been enough to secure Jesus as a 'son of David', Joseph himself was also a 'son of David', albeit a weaker line than Mary's.Compare carefully the…[Read more]

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    JustAskin replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years ago

    WJ,TT,Quote The love of Jesus SURPASSED God's love./QUOTE]Both of you – please re-think what one you wrote and the other supported – hopefully this was just a “rush of blood to the head” moment.Nick,Indeed Jesus perfectly showed God in nature and power.Have you read what the Hebrews in the desert said to God when he used to speak to man…[Read more]

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    JustAskin replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years ago

    WJ,TT,Quote The love of Jesus SURPASSED God's love./QUOTE]Both of you – please re-think what one you wrote and the other supported – hopefully this was just a “rush of blood to the head” moment.Nick,Indeed Jesus perfectly showed God in nature and power.Have you read what the Hebrews in the desert said to God when he used to speak to man…[Read more]

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