2BesseCan you please explain to me what your understanding of death is. What happens when someone dies, christian or non christian?eg, does he go straight to heaven, or hell, or just sleeping?

Quote Quote from biblesuite: “According to the opinion of many of the church Fathers, the paradise in which our first parents dwelt before the fall still exists, neither on earth nor in the heavens, but above and beyond the world”http://t3.gstatic.com/images?….WZ1V96N

Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,14:57)Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,15:16)Resting,We can not judge anyone.  I cannot say you are going to hell, or even say you are going to heaven.  That is what judging really is, and not for me or anyone to decide what your outcome will be at the 2nd coming..  I don't even say I am saved, because although I wa…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,14:27)Quote (journey42 @ April 27 2013,14:13)Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,10:35)Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46) 2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same    doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital. J…[Read more]

Quote (Resting @ April 26 2013,14:28)Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,14:16)2Besee.You are showing your love for God with your lips only.Inside; you dont really care about his words and prophecy.You dont really believe that his word is potent.You can brush it off with ease and not feel guilty.You belong to those prophets and pastors that will be…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 27 2013,10:35)Quote (Wakeup @ April 26 2013,17:46) 2Besee.1. I am wakeup,and j42 is a woman,we have the same    doctrine,excactly the same.I was talking post layout patterns.One line begins with a small letter, and another with a capital. Journey:This is God's doing.  Their sins have reached heaven, and God is punishing th…[Read more]

Quote The enemy has been bound since the cross.You do not consider these verses at all, or if you do, what do they mean to you:Matthew 12:29″How can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.”2Bessie,Satan's house has not been plundered yet.  It is still op…[Read more]

Quote Wrong. The Israel of God is the elect of God, the Heavenly Zion, the true church, and only in being added to that Israel by Christ can men be saved from Gods wrath. Isaiah ch 49 refers to Heavenly Zion, not Jews of the flesh. Your ideas are fuel for Israel of the middle east to continue with their land stealing and killing with the false…[Read more]

Quote That is so complicated!2Besse, Of course it's complicated to you.  You have the events all mixed up.  You think all is over when Christ returns.  You did not consider the millenium to come which says 1000 yrs of rest, not two thousand years. Do you know what rest is?  It's rest from the enemy, Satan, because he is locked up.You did not con…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 25 2013,19:17)Quote (journey42 @ April 25 2013,16:08)Quote (2besee @ April 25 2013,13:41)Quote The whole world IS full of the knowledge of God now.Jeremiah 25:34   Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are…[Read more]

Quote Forget about the Jew flesh thing, it is because you can not see into the scriptures.Your words are very strong. You cannot contain it. This is what the truth does. It vexes people. You lot are vexed sore.Isaiah 49:10   They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead…[Read more]

Quote Doesn't make sense to me. Even family who are not amillenialists shake their head. Jeremiah 7:26   Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. Jeremiah 7:27  Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call u…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ April 25 2013,13:38)Quote The second death is permanent.Jude 1:12These are hidden reefs at your love feasts, as they feast with you without fear, shepherds feeding themselves; waterless clouds, swept along by winds; fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead, uprooted.In the first resurrection, there is life. All the saints who…[Read more]

Quote The whole world IS full of the knowledge of God now.Jeremiah 25:34   Howl, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye principal of the flock: for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel. Joel 1:5   Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye d…[Read more]

Quote You say that what you teach is unique and strange to us. I say – what you teach is not “strange” it is common today.Not quite.  Not one soul here has agreed with us.  I do not know any christian that knows what we are telling you. Quote You say that we try to find a name for what you believe by “Googling” it. I say – you are h…[Read more]

Quote You say that the Jews will be brought back into the kingdom on earth in Jerusalem and that they will be taught. I say – Nowhere does it say that in scripture.Isaiah 49:10   They shall not hunger nor thirst; neither shall the heat nor sun smite them: for he that hath mercy on them shall lead them, even by the springs of water shall he guide…[Read more]

Quote You comment that the Jews will come back to God when Jesus returns. I say – No, it does not say that. NOW is the day of salvation. When Christ returns, the door will be CLOSED, and it is the same for everybody. God is the God of all the earth, and again, Jew or Gentile, it makes no difference to salvation. Jeremiah 31:9   They shall come…[Read more]

Quote Jews ARE special to God. However, salvation is in no other name, whether you are a Jew or a Gentile.Jeremiah 31:1   at the same time, saith the Lord, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.Jeremiah 31:3   The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love, t…[Read more]

Quote It means that God has not FORGOTTEN the Jews, and many Jews and Muslims will come to Christ in these end times, when the falling away occurs.2 Thessalonians 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;I don't think you…[Read more]

Quote You say that Romans tells us that all of Israel will all be grafted back in. I say – No it does not.Romans 11:23   And They also if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in for God is able to graft then in again.Quote Romans tells us that the Gentiles will be grafted in, but that God has not FORGOTTEN the natural Jews….…[Read more]