Quote How can unbelievers fall away, if it is as you say?What I said is that this man affects everybody.  Not everybody has the “temple of God” in them.you said;Quote The man of sin in 2nd Thess takes the place of the Holy Spirit.The world don't have the holy spirit in the first place.you said;Quote The temple is the BODY. This has nothing to do…[Read more]

Quote This has to do with the apostasy – the falling away which has to do with believers – Christians, and cannot be the unbelievers, as you say.2BesseThis has to do with everybody.  Rev 13:16   And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.The falling away is o…[Read more]

2 Thess 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called god, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.2BesseIs the temple of God situated in the unbelievers?Those that worship this man will not be worshiping God.  So how can their “temple” be defiled, if they have not t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 03 2013,11:42)Jesus was created as a spirit being – the first of God's works.  All other spirit sons of God (and everything else) were then created by God through God's firstborn Son.  (John 1:3, Col 1:16, 1 Cor 8:6, Heb 1:2)  Jesus was indeed existing in the form of God before emptying himself and being made in the li…[Read more]

Quote Journey,You said that Christ had to manifest into flesh to show it was really him and not a ghost and so they could see him. However, the word translated is not 'ghost', but 'spirit', so the correct rendering would be that Christ showed them that He was not spirit. 2Besse, A ghost is a ghost.  You can say spirit if you like.  It's the same t…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ May 02 2013,16:39)Quote (journey42 @ May 01 2013,06:07)Quote (2besee @ May 01 2013,22:51)Quote Journey,YOUR idea of Paradise is a temporary kingdom where people die, where evil still exists OUTSIDE the WALLS.I do not believe that.I know you don't.  You cannot see that there will also be future generations after Christ's return.…[Read more]

Quote Journey, continue to read what it says, please.Hebrews 11. By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place which he was to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, not knowing where he was to go.2BesseYes all is accomplished by faith.  That is the no. 1 main ingredient.  Complete trust in our Father. I do not deny t…[Read more]

2BesseMark 16:12   After that he appeared in another form, unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.Luke 24:31   And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.  

Quote (t8 @ May 01 2013,21:59)Quote (kerwin @ May 01 2013,22:05)The mark of the beast is the sinful nature as those like it act like Brute beasts.  There may come to be an outward mark as well.Highly speculative, but then again most other views are speculative including the one in the video.I thought it was really good until I kept…[Read more]

Quote Journey,YOUR idea of Paradise is a temporary kingdom where people die, where evil still exists OUTSIDE the WALLS.I do not believe that.I know you don't.  You cannot see that there will also be future generations after Christ's return.  Those inside that kingdom area will be protected.  And yes they die, but at a good old age, and they li…[Read more]

Quote What Jesus said regarding paradise, I believe.Quote We KNOW that it was not “that day” – we understand what Jesus meant.Then what day was it.  Was Christ lying?Quote Regarding Paradise:“Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”He said TODAY you will…[Read more]

Quote Journey,I don't have much time to post, but just briefly,You also do not believe that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh and bone. That is not scriptural.2Besse, does this not mean anything to you?1 Corinthians 15:44   It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. then I…[Read more]

Quote Journey, you are quoting Old Testament verses, as if Jesus never came.Jesus still experienced death.  In the grave, knowing nothing whilst he is dead.  He was raised 3 days later however, but some have been dead for 2 thousand years, and will still receive the promise.2BesseIt says the dead in Christ will be raised at the last trumpet (…[Read more]

Quote Journey,You are not teaching me anything new, I have heard all of what you say in the JW magazines.Hi 2BesseThis has nothing to do with the J'W's for I was not taught of them.  This is purely scriptural and straight forward.  You said you weren't sure what happens after death, so you obviously don't know.  Well I'm showing you that you do…[Read more]

2BesseWhat happens when we die is revealed to us here and there in the scriptures.Here are some scriptures.Genesis 2:7   And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.So adam was completely formed, then God breathed the breath of life into him, and he became…[Read more]

Hi 2BesseI missed this post.Quote Hi Journey.What happens when people die? Well, none of us know that for sure  It's not a mystery.  It's revealed in the scriptures.Quote but I do believe the visions and near death experiences where people see heaven. I'm very sceptical of these “visions”.  Don't be fooled by them.Quote I also believe sc…[Read more]

Quote What will you do when it gets hard?  Will you 'hide yourself away' with your followers and a gun? Will you shoot that gun in order to protect yourself, or will you do what Jesus said and take care of the strangers, giving them their food at the proper time? 2BesseHow can we take care of strangers?  We will be the ones hungry for refusing t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,16:46)Quote (Wakeup @ April 28 2013,16:06)Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,15:35)“he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;” (Isa 49:2)”For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain (ref. 2Thess 2:8) of the LORD shall be many. (Isa 66:16)”And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ April 28 2013,15:04)Quote (abe @ April 24 2013,09:38)Quote (abe @ April 23 2013,00:29)Quote (journey42 @ April 22 2013,23:20)Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:32)Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2013,17:30)Hi Wakeup,”The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;  and the calf and the young lion and the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2013,06:49)Hi 2Besee, I thought all three of them were the same person until I got to know them all individually.  God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgThanks Ed.I find it quite funny. Just like I was so sure 2Besse was a she!Wakeup married my dad's sister just before I was born. His two sons are…[Read more]