Quote (t8 @ Sep. 19 2013,22:40)Sorry for not keeping up here.Forgive me if this seems lame compared to what you might have already discussed.But what is the form of God? My guess it is spirit. God is a spirit. Angels are spirits too and they are called sons…….If everything else is in order JB2U, then you should reconsider your position IMO…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2013,12:44)Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Ge 1:4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.day ;2 and three ………….…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 20 2013,02:08)Jb2u……Just something to think about brother, remember when God told Adam and Eve, in “THE DAY”, you eat (of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) you shall surely die”> Well they did not Die in that 24 hour period day they ate of it, but they did die withing the 1000 year period, after they ate…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 08 2013,13:36)JBfirst let it be clear ;start stop = time past  day = time within a defined  period like 8 hours shift ,or 10,or 12 ,etcday for calculation of months ,years ,365 =  1 year –30 days = 1 month ,SPAN OF TIME ,RIGHT so my day is probably not your day ,right  You did not answer my question yet!!1) WHY do you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,13:07)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 07 2013,16:24)Yes, BUT..God is not a location!! Jesus said He came out from God!! NOT out from heaven!! Think about exactly what it is that the scripture says!!John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.Does that one fit your criteria?…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,13:04)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 07 2013,16:00)One can ONLY be BORN of a woman!! You sure?  Psalm 90:2 NIV © Before the mountains were born…………..(BTW, the word is “yalad”, which is also the Hebrew word for “begotten”.  Apparently it is not only humans who are “begotten” after all.    Actually, the Hebrew word mean…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,12:51)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 07 2013,15:43)Matthew 1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.The word here (generation) is an “origin” or “a beginning.” The same Hebrew equivalent word is found hereMicah 5:2 says that his origins are from “days of old, from ancient times”.  And…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,12:20)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 07 2013,15:07)Again, you keep having to change the sentence in order to make your point.The difference is in your interpretation of Philippians 2.I'm going to try to end this Phil 2 thing, once and for all………This is the literal translation of the Greek words of verses 6 and 7:who, in…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 08 2013,08:26)bjQuote I believe in a 6 day (24 hour) creation.prove to me that this is the case with scriptures ,or any other way except ridiculouslyOK..I agree that sometimes “a day” can mean “a period of time” such as “the day of the Lord.”HOWEVER..every time..Again..EVERY TIME the bible uses the word “day” along with…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2013,08:51)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 02 2013,03:01)1. Why does it not say Jesus was “transformed” or “changed” into a man?2. What does Jesus mean when He says He “came out from” God?3. God only talked to us “in these last days”; so, who/what was Jesus before these last days?4. Why is the word “preexist” not used in the Bible anywhere…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2013,03:50)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 01 2013,09:01)1. Why does it not say Jesus was “transformed” or “changed” into a man?2. What does Jesus mean when He says He “came out from” God?3. God only talked to us “in these last days”; so, who/what was Jesus before these last days?4. Why is the word “preexist” not used in the Bible…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2013,03:35)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 01 2013,08:56)I NEVER said that there is NOT scripture that prohibits a pre-existent Jesus. I only said those 4 passages that I quoted earlier, they did not prohibit, necessarily, a preexistence!!My bad.  I assumed that you listed those four because they were the best you had.Why not just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2013,03:23)No, no, no, jb.  Let's use the cockroach thing again.1.  jb existing as a human being.2.  jb emptied himself by being made as a cockroach.3.  AND AFTER being found in appearance as a cockroach, humbled himself even further by walking right under the shoe he knew would squash him dead.You see?  There is no “…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2013,03:06)Quote (jb2u @ Sep. 01 2013,08:35)How..please answer this question without skipping it..HOW can we also be of the same mind that we existed first in heaven with God, but don't seek equality, instead empty ourselves, and become men”?The teaching is very simple, jb. The mind of Jesus is that he was existing in a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2013,02:59)I agree that this is where THE misunderstanding is.  But the misunderstanding is not mine.Form #1:  Existing in the form of God, at which time he did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.Get it?  WHILE he was existing in the form of God, he DIDN'T consider equality something to be gr…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2013,02:48)jbQuote Why do you question a creation in 6 literal days?Keep in mind that God repeats for us that He did it in 6 days!!I t seems that you said that God created all things in 6 days (24 hour) if this is not true ,I miss understood what you had written ,because to me it only means that God as created all…[Read more]

Here our my questions again from page 14..A couple questions for you both that I believe have not been answered..1. Why does it not say Jesus was “transformed” or “changed” into a man?2. What does Jesus mean when He says He “came out from” God?3. God only talked to us “in these last days”; so, who/what was Jesus before these last days?4. Why is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2013,05:22)Quote (jb2u @ Aug. 28 2013,08:26)It is EASY if you do not maintain that there is some kind of “chronological order” to these verses.But they ARE in chronological order.Quote (jb2u @ Aug. 28 2013,08:26)You did not answer HOW the order can be different in verse 7 and 8.You are only imagining a “reverse order”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2013,04:18)Quote (jb2u @ Aug. 28 2013,07:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2013,12:20)Have in you the mind of Jesus, who, existing (present tense form) as the only begotten Son of God on earth, didn't allow that prestige to keep him from serving sinners and prostitutes.Paul did not state that Jesus' “being in the form of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2013,04:31)Quote (jb2u @ Aug. 28 2013,07:56)My response was to answer your question on Paul's reason for stating such. I believe that Paul was telling us that although Jesus is in the image of God (just like us), He did not seek to be equal with God (unlike us).I've never thought I was equal with God.  Nor have I ever…[Read more]